Platonic?
Plato and his ideal sphere somewhere . . . his ideal perfect chair somewhere etc. etc.
I think it is
unarguable that
1. we all have perceptual bias--inescapable perceptual distortion bias.
2. that from some hypothesized yet also--certainly from the Christian perspective--REALalistic perspective of God . . . God's angelic hosts . . . or even, one might say . . . God's master computer hardware observer drones . . . THERE IS SOME OBJECTIVE REALITY that does not suffer from perceptual distortion and bias.
3. However, the latter, has a bit of a problem with TIME in the equation. What IS or WAS at that moment is MOST PROBABLY altered the next moment or given sufficient moments . . . depending on a list of partially unknown variables.
4. Hume, Hegel, and all the other nihilistic pontificals ad nauseum . . . seem to have been in a hell fostered rush to push God out of the equation. Given that God was/is by definition infinite . . . and largely empirically unknowable in strict RELIGION OF SCIENCE TERMS--it was a nice trick to define reality as only that which is empirically provable.
4.1 However, interestingly, Satre was closer than he might have realized . . . to reality--when he asserted that for the finite to have meaning--it must have a connection to the INFINITE. He just never connected to the INFINITE himself, as far as we know.
5. However, they spoke too soon. They could not anticipate quantum physics and the observer problem. They still had the insane 'luxury' of pretending that there COULD BE a
TRULY OBJECTIVE, TRULY EMPIRICAL PERSPECTIVE in this time/space dimension.
6. I think there's another uppity miscalculation on the part of such hell fostered mentalities and perspectives. They are most rattled by MIRACLES. Certainly hell is familiar with the equation that less faith equal less miracles. So, in a sense, it's a tidy little way to decrease miracles--trash faith.
7. However, God IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN I-AM . . . and is quite delighted to sabotage such presumptions on the part of the finite and particularly on the part of hell. However, He is also usually loathe to drop HIS MIRACLES into a laboratory--particularly on 'scholarly' 'RELIGION OF SCIENCE' COMMAND.
8. Yet, satan's goons do capture a lot of unsuspecting folks into a mentality that trashes their faith. FAITH--the critical currency and critical structure of God's multiverse.
9. Oddly and flabbergastingly, he gets them to put their FAITH into something
--far more finite,
--far more silly,
--far more irrational,
--far more UNEMPIRICAL,
--far more unverifiable,
--far more unfounded . . .
. . . a philosophy that quickly ties itself in a Gordian Knot of self-obliterating descriptions, premises, definitions and foundations.
10. They know to some degree that there's no such thing as an objective observer. Yet, they go merrily on PRETENDING that they with their super narrow, super rigid, super UN-REAListic biases are MORE objective than God. I'm sure He's impressed.
The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.
The fool has said in his heart, there is nothing knowable outside our little fantasies about reality.
When IN REALITY, there's little knowable WITHIN their fantasies about reality.
Well and truly said, dearest brother in Christ!