For anyone reading this thread in the future I will post the following warning. I am sure that NYer did not intend it, but the link in post #4 on this thread is from a schismatic group that calls John Paul II a manifest heretic who claimed to be pope 1978-2005. Readers should know that the document linked here in post #4 eventually turns into an anti-Vatican screed (and don’t read it to your children!).