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NCR’s Joan Chittister Compares Apostate Lesbian Androphobe Mary Daly to the Mother of God
What Does the Prayer Really Say ^ | 1/22/10 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 01/22/2010 9:09:00 AM PST by marshmallow

Some things you couldn’t make up if you tried.

In the ultra-dissenting fishwrap NCR that perennial gaff generatrix Sr. Joan Chittister, OSB. has compared the late apostate lesbian androphobe Mary Daly to… wait for it… the Blessed Virgin Mary.

I am not making this up.

My emphases and comments.

For Mary Daly: in memory of courage walking

by Joan Chittister on Jan. 13, 2010

I did not know Mary Daly personally. I never met her professionally. I never heard even one of her public speeches. My concern for women’s issues did not come from Daly. I got that from my mother.

My sense of Daly’s impact on history comes from every discussion of women’s issues in which I ever participated. The impact Daly’s ideas and courage was having on other women was palpable. [I believe certain maladies of the liver are also palpable.] In those living situations, [?] then, I learned a lot from Daly. Most of all, I learned how to look newly at things I’d looked at for so long that I was no longer really seeing any of them. [Boy oh boy, she sure did a number on you!]

Recently I heard a commentator remark on her role in the development of thought in our time that "when the theological history of the period is written, Mary Daly will, at most, be only a small footnote in the study." That depends, I would argue, on who is doing the history. Women, I think, will have a great deal more to say about Daly than any amount of footnotes can possibly hold. [Lemme guess… you are going to "share the story", right?]

Remote as my own associations had been, for instance, when the word of her death came I realized instantly that women in general, whether they knew it or not, had a great deal for which to thank her. [Okay, Joan, you are repeating yourself now. Get on with it.]

Women need to thank Daly for raising two of the most important theological questions of our time: one, whether the question of a male God was consistent with the teaching that God was pure spirit, and two, whether a church that is more patriarchal system than authentic church could possibly survive in its present form. These two questions have yet to be resolved and are yet rankling both thinkers and institutions. [Mainly because the answers people like this come up with are heresy.]

Women need to thank Daly for bearing the rejection that too often comes to those who say a new insight first and say it consistently and say it in the face of the very system in which they themselves have been raised. [More repetition.]

For example, in later years, Daly refused to accept men in some of her classes, forcing men to experience the exclusion that women had endured for centuries. [Ohhhh…. I seeee…. is that what she was doing? Or… was she an androphobic zealot full of rage?] As a result, she lost her tenured position at a Catholic college for allegedly failing to offer equal service to all students, both men and women. [Allegedly? Let’s see… she actually did refuse to let men be in her course. Right?] But at the same time, no one else in Catholic colleges — or elsewhere — lost their jobs for excluding women from access to theology degrees or various medical specialties, among others, on the grounds that women, as women, were unfit for such programs. [Wait a minute. Where were women excluded from study of theology or medicine? I think everyone will acknowledge that it was hard for women in, say, med schools. But they were admitted. Am I wrong? Were there male only med schools? Yes, there were male only seminaries… which is reasonable. But that doesn’t mean there were no other theology programs out there.]

Nor did anyone — now that men had finally experienced what it felt like to be made invisible in the public arena [B as in B. S as in S. Daly hated men.] — officially apologize to women for having kept them out of schools, offices, work, leadership positions, discussions and decision-making in both church and state for two millennia. However much theology claimed we were all equal. [yawn]

Women need to thank Daly for modeling the adulthood, the psychological maturity, the strength it takes to accept the social isolation and loneliness that comes with refusing to agree that just because we have never questioned a thing that it is, therefore, unquestionable. Thanks to her relentless questioning of women’s social circumstances and theological exclusions everywhere, the woman’s question became a major and profound theological question. It is thanks to Daly and the myriad of women theologians [?] after her that "Because we say so" is no longer either a logical or an acceptable explanation for the exclusion of women anywhere.

Women need to thank Daly for exposing to us a whole new way of being alive. [Good heavens… make an end....] She freshened thought about the role and place of women by using language to show us what we could not see. [Put your coffee down before reading this part… and savor the irony…] She dug into history to trace the original meanings of words like hag and witch — once terms of reverence for the spiritual qualities and feminine wisdom of women, but now used to reduce them to the level of the malevolent.

She forced us to think newly, to think creatively. She called on women to Re-member themselves, [?] to put themselves together differently than they had been taught was right for a woman. She talked about Gyn/nocide [For the love of God, ... ] to make us understand that the infamous centuries of witch burnings were really the genocide of women practiced long before this century’s Holocaust and under the guise of holiness. [How proud the editors of NCR must be of their weekly columnist.]

Indeed, Daly’s work is an icon to women. She was a groundbreaking thinker, a threat to any patriarchal institution, a creator of an entire new way of seeing life, of being alive, of celebrating life. She touched a culture deeply. Indeed, we owe her thanks. [How many times can she repeat herself?]

From where I stand, a person’s influence is measured, not so much by virtue of their effect on the institutions that bred them, but by their influence on those who never knew them at all. It is the women who never knew Daly but now know the things she knew that are the real evidence of her legacy, her impact, her meaning not only to this generation but to generations to come. [And here it is… ] As in "all generations shall call her blessed."

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Sr. Joan Chittister just compared an apostate androphobic lesbian to the Mother of God.

Does she have no shame?

Does NCR have no shame?


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Wrong (as usual), Joan.

Her passing was barely noticed and she's forgotten already. It's still the humble and holy who serve God with love (like Mother Theresa) whose memories endure in the hearts of Christians and who inspire others towards heaven.

Love is still the strongest human emotion and Daly generated none of it.

1 posted on 01/22/2010 9:09:00 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; ...
Where is the barf alert?!!

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2 posted on 01/22/2010 9:11:55 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: marshmallow
To give the author the benefit of the doubt, I suppose that some of the article's stylistic blunders could be attributed to it having been translated into, and then back out of, Swahili, right?

Regards,

3 posted on 01/22/2010 9:12:23 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: marshmallow

Mary Daly OUT. Ayla Brown IN!


4 posted on 01/22/2010 9:14:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: marshmallow

Women who fixate on sexuality and gender like this totally miss the point.

Men could fixate on it as well just like them. Women never seem to complain that the Church Universal (body of believers) is referred to as “The Bride of Christ”. That the relationship between the Church and Christ is like that of a bride and bridegroom. Regular masculine men who are believers in the church do not have a problem being believers because of this reference. It does not draw our sexuality into question or start wandering off on theological tangents about God and homosexual undertones because believing men are part of the bride of Christ.

These people cannot deal with the fact God has revealed Himself to us in a certain way. That God came into history in a male form. That He called his Father, “Father”. That the Holy Spirit is discussed in masculine terms. That God created man first, that there was an order to creation. But they ignore the fact that all men and women are made in the image of God - not necessarily in terms of gender, but as PEOPLE that can think and make choices and be creative and have purpose. That women are full heirs in Christ just like men are.

This topic is so tiring to have to continue to address. If anything I blame it on the liberal religious denominations who can’t see past their own ‘equipment’ and do a terrible job teaching biblical truth on this and instead focus on it like pop culture and ever-shifting social engineers do.


5 posted on 01/22/2010 9:41:19 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: marshmallow

These folks are in open rebellion against the magisterium and sacred traditions of the Church. Since excommunication is unlikely, what is needed is that they be reduced to an irrelevancy. When readers of NCR stop their subscriptions, the lesson of irrelevancy will be heard loud and clear.


6 posted on 01/22/2010 9:54:26 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: marshmallow

Sr. Joan is suffering from real mental/intellectual illness which probably saves her from the sin of blasphemy. She knows not what she does.


7 posted on 01/22/2010 10:02:11 AM PST by Rampolla
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To: marshmallow

NPR is always happy to have itself validated by the outrageous.


8 posted on 01/22/2010 10:41:07 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: marshmallow

The Church needs to focus its attention on apostates like her and discern how to insulate itself from future episodes of this type. Rapid excommunication and repudiation of false doctrine done publicly and without any reservation is required in dealing with recidivist recalcitrant reprobates such as Daly. However, the entire course of the Church since Vat 2 needs to be analyzed and new strategies devised and employed to thwart future occurrences. Blame must be public attributed, in a loving manner, on those who have done the bidding of Satan.


9 posted on 01/22/2010 1:35:08 PM PST by bronx2 (Bronx2)
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To: marshmallow
Yet another woman who rejects her God-given gift of femininity rather than embracing it. I wish these...people...would kindly not give the rest of us long-haired, skirt wearing, decently groomed ladies a bad name. Rebelling against the prevailing secular culture with modesty and elegance is hard enough. But having these...people...who insist on presenting themselves as ugly as possible, claim the moral high ground is just ridiculous.

Oh, and the heresy. Men need to call them on it and not let up. True ladies don't question the patriarchal role of the Father. After all, Christ did call Him that.

10 posted on 01/22/2010 1:50:18 PM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: marshmallow

intrinsically disordered






(like Mother Theresa)

No "h" in Teresa.

11 posted on 01/22/2010 8:53:41 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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