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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jim Robinson
SO you would have expected the islamic relief fund to work with the Salvation Army? If they had, would we be attacking the Salvation Army?

Don't read my mind and assign a motive to me, Charles. The Salvation Army did NOT partner with the muslims.

Since the mormons have had an ongoing campaign and have been railing for several years now demanding they be called "Christians" I find it quite interesting that they would advertise the fact that they chose a muslim organization to "partner" with when as I posted, there are many Christian organizations they could have aided.

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"The LDS has lots of volunteers willing to risk their lives to help others, and an effective organization for delivering that help."

Where is your proof that "The LDS has lots of volunteers willing to risk their lives to help others," and the organizations on the ground do not? Take a look at this bit of information.

The Salvation Army has had a presence in Haiti since 1950 and currently operates schools, clinics, a hospital, feeding programs, children's homes and church-related activities spread across two major facilities in Port au Prince, close to the epicenter of the earthquake and at other locations in the country.

One of the facilities, or compounds as it is referred to, includes a home for more than 50 children; a school with a daily attendance of 1,500 children; a medical clinic caring for 150-200 people daily; and a church that on any typical Sunday welcomes nearly 1,000 people. The facility is less than 10 minutes from the National Palace and is in an area known as St. Martin that's home to predominantly poor living in the nation's capital.

According to reports from Salvation Army staff in Port au Prince, no one in the compound was injured during the earthquake, but the children's home, the clinic and church suffered major damage. Several smaller buildings, including residences, have collapsed completely. People were sleeping in the parking lot overnight, while severe aftershocks continued to affect the country.

The second compound that houses Salvation Army administrative offices is being used as an emergency operations center; damage was slight to this compound, according to Salvation Army reports from Haiti."

Army school, clinic damaged; staff on-site organizing emergency response

Now, post the similar facts regarding mormon presence in Haiti.

I’m not sure why FR is actually complaining about non-government-funded relief efforts now, except that it plays into the hatred some people have for muslims and mormons.

And, I'm not sure why some individuals would try to charge the entire FR site with "playing into the hatred some people have" over posts made by a handful of members. Take it up with the boss...I'm pinging him for you.

Would you care to borrow the victim card?

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80 posted on 01/14/2010 12:49:19 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Having failed to realise I was in a religious mormon-bashing thread, I thought I was in a thread asking why the islamic group teamed up with the lds group.

I mentioned that maybe the IR-USA didn’t have an organization ready to go to Haiti, while the LDS folks do.

You said the Salvation Army was already in Haiti. Well, since the LDS has people to go to Haiti, they wouldn’t need to hook up with a group already there. It’s the IR-USA that needed a partner. So of course, I assumed you were suggesting the IR-USA should have hooked up with the SA.

But now I see that wasn’t your point at all. You were trying to suggest the LDS should partner with the Salvation Army.

Which makes no sense. The LDS has an organization, but can always use money. the IR-USA had money. the salvation army has an organization already. There is no point in two groups with organizations hooking up, the point is to get the group with money to help the groups with organizations.

Now that I know your true purpose, I apologize for thinking this was going to be a rational conversation about what makes the most sense when providing relief efforts.

As to the rest, you are correct, and I apologize to “FR” for the shorthand; I should have spelled out my complaint that “I didn’t understand why, on FR, there were Freepers who were”. I have no doubt that most of those on FR would find this discussion tedious at best.

But, again, I also apologize to everybody on this thread, as I misunderstood the purpose and point of the thread. I wasted your time explaining why it made sense for relief organizations to pair with fundraising organizations, when the point of the thread was to bash the Mormon church for helping Haitians.


101 posted on 01/14/2010 1:59:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: greyfoxx39

BTW:

Wouldn’t you be upset if the Salvation Army partnered with the LDS?


103 posted on 01/14/2010 2:06:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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