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To: the invisib1e hand
We appear to be talking past each other. My point was that if the premise is false - "if they were so smart" - then the conclusion is irrelevant. That is basic logic. Are you saying that if they were so smart to avoid Herod on the way home, why didn't they avoid him to begin with? Well, I am saying that they weren't necessarily smart to avoid Herod on the way home because they were specifically warned to avoid him.

Being able to see into the future - slaughter of infants - was not part of their skill set, so to speak, and is not related to intelligence. Hindsight can be 20/20, but most people don't have 20/20 foresight. You are looking at the situation with hindsight.

God works in mysterious ways. Why did He choose Peter who denied Him three times to be his first Pope or Judas who would betray Him? It is all part of God's plan, but that does not mean that we can fully comprehend His plan.

16 posted on 01/07/2010 11:18:40 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS
Well, I am saying that they weren't necessarily smart to avoid Herod on the way home because they were specifically warned to avoid him.

OK, didn't get that the first few times around.

But they were "wise men." And if you see another post I made here, you'll see my argument about why anyone with any sense would have known better than to taunt Herod with the news of a rival king's birth.

As for it "all being part of God's plan," well, that's not an explanation. That's like saying the sky is blue because it is blue.

I don't fault your answer, because it's not an easy question - I've certainly never heard it asked - and it's a challenge to the conventional wisdom and the popular tradition. But I think it's a good, honest question, even if there is no other answer than, "because."

17 posted on 01/07/2010 11:34:44 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can read this you're too close.)
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