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To: Melian
That’s why I think we can’t make a pronouncement one way or another

Glorified bodies are perfected and perfect (which means complete, or finished) is by deifnition changeless. So, no, Christ's perfected body would not change at the end of times, lest it be imperfect. If Christ's glorified body had marks of crucifixion then it was not perfected, ye the NT says it was.

That may be so, but this time she was spot on.

81 posted on 01/05/2010 8:33:29 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you.)
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To: kosta50; boatbums

God can do anything. He can even change a glorified body or redefine what glorified means. He can remove the marks whenever He wills it.

The passages boatbums cited tell us Jesus wore the marks when he appeared to the Apostles after He rose. If I was like some Protestants, I would tell boatbums that he/she can’t hold that opinion that Christ will wear the marks forever because it isn’t explicitly spelled out in Scripture. Therefore, it can’t be true and it’s just the foolish tradition of men.

Now you tell me that you think it’s plausible to surmise what boatbums surmises, though there is no scriptural proof spelled out as many Protestants insist it has to be. You can’t have it both ways.

Either the Catholic Church and boatbums have the proof necessary for their beliefs (because they have passages that hint at or support them), or boatbums and the Catholic Church cannot hold those beliefs because they are not specifically and explicitly spelled out, word for word, in Scripture.

And THAT is the inconsistency. IIRC, boatbums is one of the posters who often chastises Catholics because they can’t cite a bald-faced statement from Scripture for some of their beliefs.

Personally, I think boatbums is probably right and Christ will wear the marks as a sign of His humanity forever. And, likewise, I think the Catholic Church is correct in its interpretation of John 6 and the meaning of the Real Presence in the Eucharist. We have MANY more passages to cite for that belief than boatbums has to support his.


82 posted on 01/05/2010 9:12:31 PM PST by Melian ("Here's the moral of the story: Catholic witness has a cost." ~Archbishop Charles Chaput)
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