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[HarleyD]

I do know how spoken words can be the truth – when they come from the Church Christ established.

All those quotes you've provided we would agree on. The thing we don't agree on is what constitutes the "church".

You have yet to explain the difference between the "inspired" and "uninspired" writing let alone the spoken word. You just keep throwing out quotes that are nebulous in context. Do you believe everything that comes from the Church carries the SAME equal weight as the inspired scriptures? Let me ask if you believe the decree from Rome of paying for indulgences was considered the "truth" at the time it was issued by the Pope? Was it the truth after the practice was rescinded by the Council of Trent?

How do you know this? You have a record of all of his spoken words? You really need to take a course in logic. You make no sense much of the time.

What??? That Paul's writings in the scripture was inspired? Because the early church fathers blessed it as inspired. Because Peter confirms it was inspired. And because the church accepted it and used it as inspired.

Or what??? That Paul's writings that is not in scripture is not inspired? If someone tomorrow uncovered Paul's 3rd letter to the Corinthians or Paul's letter to the Church in Boise, it would make no difference. The Bible was sealed so that there would be no more works that would be considered "inspired". Inspired writing had a set criteria. Those works of Paul found after all these years would be considered no more "inspired" than St. Clement's works from a biblical standpoint. For sure they be interesting but they would not have meant the definition of what an inspired work constitute; in this case evidence of wide spread use throughout the churches.

You must provide evidence of inspiration-not simply because a group of men say it's so or there is some passage that says the church is the foundation of truth. Yes we all would agree with that. How about the Holy Spirit will guide you to all truth? Protestants have a different interpretation to that meaning. The early church fathers saw this all coming and wisely made the distinction between "inspired" writing and "uninspired". They did not get into "inspired" words and it wasn't until 1800 years later that the Pope declared himself to be infallible.

Frankly, I don't see how difficult this is to comprehend.

BTW-I have taken a course in logic. Several as a matter of fact.