[mrreaganaut]

I have given you the evidence that you live in a theistic universe. Moreover you live in a Christian Theistic Universe, and have supported this with scientific evidence, philosophical evidence, moral evidence, teleological evidence and the Cosmological argument.
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Wow! That’s a lot more work than I put into it- you make me realize that I may have skipped a step when I concluded that the only evidence of faith is faith itself.

Let me explain. I have gone over these arguments in philosophy classes and with actual atheists and agnostics, and they ALWAYS find some ‘reason,’ whether reasoned or not, to nit-pick their way into being satisfied with their own understanding and lack of faith. Heck, I did it myself when I was younger. Ultimately, then, the process of demanding proof is also an expression of faith: faith in one’s own understanding. This is why I just skipped the whole dance of going through the arguments you posted above.

But you’re right. If it takes going through the whole dog-and-pony show to save a soul, then it’s worth it. Bless you!

[Texas Songwriter]

Atheists are, by definition, materialist naturalists. Materialism cannot account for immaterial things...ie...abstract concepts, rationality, reason, logic, love, mercy, conciousness, sentience. Therefore their worldview must borrow these very concepts from the theistic universe.The atheistic worldveiw, in essence, provides the evidence for proof of the existence of God from the impossibility of the contrary. The transendental proof for God's existence is that witout Him it is impossible to prove anything. The atheists worldview is irrational and cannot consistently provide the preconditions of intelligible experience, science, logic, or morality. The athesists worldview cannot allow for the laws of logic, the uniformity of nature, the ability for the mind to understand the world, and moral absolutes. Without the existence of God it is impossible to prove anything. That is because in the atheistic world you cannot justify, you cannot account for human life, from the fact that it is more than electrochemical complexes in depth, and the fact that it is more than an accident. That is to say, in the atheists conception of the world, there is really no reason to believe anything....because in the athistic worldview everything is conventional. All laws are simply conventional...the laws of logic are determinined in the athistis world by agreement, not by logic, but by simply something which occurs in the brain as a neurotransmittor. As laws come down to being materialistic entities, then they no longer have their law-like character. If they are only social conventions, then of course, what we might do to limit any discussion is just to define a new set of laws which make us feel better.

Yet noone is satisfied without a rational procedure to follow. The laws of logic can not be avoided, the laws of logic cannot be accounted for in a materialistic universe. Therefore the laws of Logic are one of the many evidences that without God you cannot prove anthing at all. The denial of the Christian God and a Christian Theistic Universe leads inexorably to the denial of rationality.

The Bible says 'the fool hath said in his heart there is no God.' That is not name calling, but is a description of someone who is imbued with the knowledge that God is. Paul says in I Cornithians chapter 1 that God has made foolish the wisdom of this world. He says, "Where are the wise? Where is the debater of this age? Romans, chapter 1:18-following, says God is making Himself known continually and persuasively to all men, so that men do not have an excuse for their rejection of the existence of the Christian God. Some continue their fools errands and rationalizations of why they refuse belief in Him. People can know the truth and yet work very hard to rationalize the evidence, as Paul says, "suppress the truth in unrighteousness" in order to convince themselves that there is no God.

Finally, people are not made into theists by miracles. People must change their world view.