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To: IbJensen

>>His successor’s time is running out, yet he does nothing. <<

I think you are mistaken.

JPII, although I am no fan of the way he handled things, DID bring the TLM back and stated that it was allowed (to much chagrin).
B16 has cleaned the “progressives” out of the seminaries and pushed for Latin in the Liturgy.

After the sweeping changes initiated by VII (or rather usurped by VII), sweeping changes back would sweep more Catholics away.

Actually, EWTN did more for us than either Pope. Mother Angelica and the HOLY mass, told Catholics like us, that there is an Novus Ordo with reverence.

And please understand, of our seven Holy Masses on the weekends, we have a TLM and kneel for communion. I want the reverence in my Mass.


9 posted on 12/19/2009 6:40:39 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: netmilsmom
What goes on in American Catholic Churches isn't Catholic. Each diocese 'does their own thing'to the point that one feels like a stranger while visiting many congregations.

There has to be a reason why congregants keep chattering loudly upon entering what today passes for a sanctuary. And where is the tabernacle? Often it's hidden away in a side room.

Lay distributors place the Host in the hands. I've watched some carry the host back to the pews and I wonder 'do they take them home?'

How can a thinking, history understanding Roman Catholic believe the errors and sacrilege ensuing after Vatican II were healthy needed change? Jesus is foreever and never changes. Why change His Church on earth? Wht join the Modernists?

11 posted on 12/19/2009 6:59:40 AM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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After the sweeping changes initiated by VII (or rather usurped by VII), sweeping changes back would sweep more Catholics away.

Thank you for making that point!!!

This is a very real problem and one our diocese will confront in another 4 years when our progressive bishop of 35+ years, is replaced. He has used those years to remodel the diocese after the VCII 'progressive' interpretation. During this time, many young candidates for the priesthood were turned away because they did not share his 'vision' of eventually having women priests. As a result, the number of priests here is at an all time low with many of them preparing to retire. I know one 89 y/o priest who still volunteers to say Mass.

The next bishop will have to gradually restore the diocese. Many of our churches have been closed and sold. Some of the combined parishes are now run by lay people. Any sudden or radical approach will result in the loss of those remaining Catholics.

This destruction was not the work of the council but that of one man who exercised his right as bishop to interpret council documents to suit his views. The secularism of society began well before Vatican Council II. Today, it is only the Catholic Church that has taken a hard line stance against many of the ills in society. One is reminded of the dream of St. John Bosco.

12 posted on 12/19/2009 7:00:32 AM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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