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To: Cyman

Sorry, please excuse me for saying this. PJP kissing the Koran and inviting every known (in some cases unknown) “religious’ leader to an ecumenical counsel in Rome, featuring everything from Animists to Muslims was enough for me.

The “Pope” is an Apostate. Always has been, always will be. Sorry about your wife though,


7 posted on 12/17/2009 12:50:12 PM PST by the anti-mahdi
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To: the anti-mahdi

*thumbs up*


8 posted on 12/17/2009 12:57:26 PM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: the anti-mahdi
The “Pope” is an Apostate. Always has been, always will be.

LOL.........thanks for clearing that up for us!!

9 posted on 12/17/2009 1:04:03 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: the anti-mahdi

I think that the word “apostate” is going a tad far but your point is well taken. He really did go way too far in the mindless ecumenical direction. Kissing the Koran and saying nice things about VooDoo really sends the wrong message in this mixed up world of ours.

To my mind the really big reason not to rush to judgement on the sainthood issue is that JPII presided over decades of priestly sex abuse of children and did nothing about it. He sure appears to me to have been part and parcel of the Church’s coverup of child abuse. He didn’t do much to clean up the “pink” seminaries in the States and Ireland, either.

And let’s keep in mind as well that Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger - now Pope Benedict XVI - was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (used to be called the Holy Inquisition) that had jurisdiction over such matters.

I freely recognize JPII’s astonishing accomplishments. And it wasn’t just his courageous and pivotal role in the defeat of the USSR. JPII also pushed through the Catechism, which was urgently needed, not to mention a complete updating of the Canon Law. His towering personality was a tremendous force in world evangelization.

But we shouldn’t rush to judgement. The fact remains that untold numbers of kids, mostly young boys, had their lives ruined and their souls polluted by priest-perps - including a couple of guys close to me - while JPII sat on his hands at best.


13 posted on 12/17/2009 2:47:00 PM PST by Erskine Childers
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