[Zionist Conspirator]

Yes, I know the laws of nature very well.

And as a uniformitarian you assume that they have been unaltered and uniform from the first instant of "creation" onward. This means that human children cannot be born to virgin mothers.

That's the whole point. We can examine the earth and come to a very good conclusion that it is way older than 6,000 years.

Yes, assuming that the laws of nature have been uniform from the "singularity" at the "big bang." These laws say that Adam could not have been created by G-d as an adult but must have been born to parents who were themselves descended from generations and generations of evolving ancestors. The same laws say that human virgin females do not give birth. If one did, your assumption that G-d could not have created an adult Adam from dirt 5769+ years ago is in error.

It's probably even older than Helen Thomas. But unless we can examine Mary and/or Jesus' DNA, we can't be sure, scientifically, that He was conceived of a virgin.

So instead you accept it on "faith" while rejecting the chronology of the Torah on the chauvinistic assumption that your religion is superior.

The point is miracles happen.

If they do, then you cannot assume uniformitarianism or the idea that the formation of the universe occurred naturally over long periods of time after an initial "supernatural creation."

We have all the evidence in the world (literally) that whereas the creation of the Universe may have been a miracle (probably was,

If not, it must be eternal and self-existent.

as tricks go it's a damn good one), it's not a 6,000-year-old miracle.

Then I guess Mary didn't give birth as a virgin.

At this point in time there is no way to tell that the miracle of the Virgin birth happened. Scientific Method working with the Laws of Nature, you know

If the "laws of nature" will not allow for the supernatural creation/formation of the universe at the time and within the time frame as narrated in the Torah, then they will not allow for a human "virgin birth" and the idea must be rejected.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

If the "laws of nature" will not allow for the supernatural creation/formation of the universe at the time and within the time frame as narrated in the Torah, then they will not allow for a human "virgin birth" and the idea must be rejected.Seriously, that's just horrifically poor logic. Like looking at a car that totaled, I don't where to begin to repair. So I'll just go to the fatal flaw in your argument:

This means that human children cannot be born to virgin mothers.

By the Laws of Nature, they can't. I buy into the miracle, which by definition exists outside the Laws of Nature.

[1000 silverlings]

When we consider that chronological time is a created thing, created by God along with creation, there is no reason not to believe God(Torah,Genesis) when He tells us how to determine it. Since we exist in an eternal present, sustained by God (and I know, by scholars studying Torah)continuously, then the creation runs by God's scientific rules, not the rules that man's capable, but lesser intellect is able to comprehend. This aspect of God easily explains why we have supernatural phenomenon and also why we have to live by faith in His created world.

[1000 silverlings]

Moreover, a careful reading of Genesis seems to indicate that God considers relevant “time” to have begun with spiritual man, or even, civilized man, when God provided the earth with a gardener. Which is why the “age” of the rocks, fossils, created matter is largely irrelevant to any spiritual creation