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To: Godzilla

> And they have, by the standards found in the Bible. Remember Jesus also said to those who said they were His followers - depart from me, I never knew you.

Possibly we are approaching this same argument by different angles, because I don’t disagree with this.

Yes, they will be judged by the Christian standards that they claim they operate to. Possibly at their peril.

We all run a similar peril, tho’ — and we have to be careful that we don’t fool ourselves into thinking we are doing what Christ wants just because we label ourselves “Christians” — rather like those who called out “Lord! Lord!” in that passage you just cited.

Labels aren’t what saves us, and actually neither are our works. Grace does. Our works only happen as an evidentiary byproduct of our Faith, which is in turn a demonstration of our belief in Grace.

The Label is merely a convenient way for us to identify ourselves.

In a nutshell, that’s what I believe on that subject. I don’t know how it synchronizes with your belief, but the passage that you quoted signaled we might actually agree more than disagree.

Dunno.


137 posted on 12/16/2009 2:06:49 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I can see you hardly bothered to read my post. The only thing important to you is the label on the bottle, ‘eh? Slapping a Roll Royce emblem on a Yugo doesn’t make that a Rolls. However, in your book, it might.

NO, Christ provided to us these definitions in the Bible and commanded us to identify posers.

RE: Grace, better take some time to research the fact that mormonism redefines the term contrary to Christianity.


142 posted on 12/16/2009 2:19:50 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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