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I feel like I may be beginning to see where Iscool is coming from. We know it involves a disdain or disapproval of anything "religious." I believe it was Iscool who earlier used to write about the good shepherd leading his sheep OUT of the fold. So I'm guessing that he would offer a very fluid interpretation of the "diversity of gifts" passages and would reject their being associated with any office or status, but would consider them functions which now and again so to speak "alighted upon" this or that member of the not empirically defined church. And, it we look at the "this" in As often as ye eat this bread, and take literally the synedoche of "cup" we then have ANY act of eating and drinking as a proper anamnetic event, in which the eating and drinking "represent" all the things which are said about the Eucharist.

This would be a kind of "hidden in plain sight" perception which could not be articulated openly because the person who did so would end up being head of his own sect or order or whatever, in a manner similar to what happened to St. Francis.

So the "fathers" whom we cite just didn't get it. They passed the hidden in plain sight teaching on without understanding it. And in every generation the Spirit informs certain people, illuminating them, giving them knowledge and wisdom about the true faith, which we, sort of like worker bees bringing royal jelly to larvae who will become our queens, service without understanding.

One PROBLEM with this is that, in certain strict versions of this kind of belief, one would have to deny holding it when it was stated all up front and everything as I have done. So I'll never know if I'm right!

“And, it we look at the “this” in As often as ye eat this bread, and take literally the synedoche of “cup” we then have ANY act of eating and drinking as a proper anamnetic event, in which the eating and drinking “represent” all the things which are said about the Eucharist.”

Well, in that case chocolate would be perfectly appropriate, perferably Russell Stover mixed nuts and creams.

I think Heaven would give pause for that, don’t you?

I believe it was Iscool who earlier used to write about the good shepherd leading his sheep OUT of the fold

That wasn't me...

So the "fathers" whom we cite just didn't get it. They passed the hidden in plain sight teaching on without understanding it. And in every generation the Spirit informs certain people, illuminating them, giving them knowledge and wisdom about the true faith, which we, sort of like worker bees bringing royal jelly to larvae who will become our queens, service without understanding.

That pretty much sums it up except that the Holy Spirit gives every Christian knowledge in every generation but far too many people are too intellectual to accept it as it is...

Referring to your great teacher Aquinas again; he adds words to scripture, he leaves out scripture to give you his version of what the scriptures mean...Does anyone correct him for doing this??? No, just continue to follow his teaching...