[Iscool]

On this day that Catholics celebrate the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, I can only message that Mary loves us and cares for us all. If you wish to rebuke her love or belittle her in some fashion by denying her importance in the whole Christ Story, you are cheating yourself out of the joy that comes from knowing her along with her Son.

You suggested that non Catholic men don't know how to treat their Mothers...You are clueless about that and I'm not interested in your religious superstitions...

Apparently unknown to you , millions of us have somehow found our way to Jesus without the intervention of a supposed aborition ...

And from the testimonies I have read, your aborition seems to lead people to itself rather than Jesus...

Thanks but no thanks...Jesus said', Come unto Me'...That's where I went...

[Iscool]

hah,,,aborition=apparition...

[mlizzy]

You suggested that non Catholic men don't know how to treat their Mothers...You are clueless about that and I'm not interested in your religious superstitions...

I did not say non-Catholic men don't know how to treat their Mothers. I said, "I've always wondered how "Christian" but "Mary-less" men treat the women in their lives" ... not *just* their mothers. Also, I hadn't any idea if you were a man or a woman from your post or name, so this wasn't directed at you "directly." But when one believes in Mary's important (and honored) part in the Jesus Story (she wasn't picked up at the local hoosegow, she was "The Immaculate Conception") they also tend to believe in the importance of women in general, thus it carries over to their wives, mothers, daughters, etc.

[mlizzy]

Thanks but no thanks...Jesus said', Come unto Me'...That's where I went...

Jesus also said "this is my body" not "this is a symbol of my body," at the Last Supper. In the Catholic Church, Jesus reigns superior through the Eucharist ... that is to say, the "live" Eucharist. He is *quite literally* the "sum and substance" of the faith. Whereas in the Protestant denominations, it is His Word alone that their faith is based upon, so the so-called "interference" from Mary could seem like a battle of sorts for importance, because nothing definitive seems to separate them. If all faiths came Home to the Living Eucharist, then to love, honor, and adore Mary wouldn't be out of place for anyone.