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To: annalex

The revelation of Scripture is manifestly progressive, and synoptic gospels in particular do not supply systematic soteriology, as does Rm. 1-11. I have explained at length the correlation btwn faith and works, that both are necessary, but that faith appropriates forgiveness, imputed righteousness, and positional sanctification, out of which which works flow, but it is not the merit of them that justifies.

>Millions of Catholics live that gospel out every day.<

What millions of Catholics evidentially live out is their believe that they became Christians as infants, and that their good works and Rome’s power will gain them eternal life, and never having abased themselves as lost hell-bound sinners, destitute of any merit to save them, and thus cast all their faith and confidence in the Lord Jesus and His finished work.

>Your #66 makes no sense<

Did you look above your last reply? How often must loyalty to Rome compel its apologists to deny the obvious. And if you do not think my comments on 6:53 make any sense, and that the evidence that Peter did not see Jesus words as literally meaning he was consuming Jesus actually flesh and blood, have no bearing on the issue, then you should not be engaging in private interpretation, and i should not wast much time further refuting you.


88 posted on 12/14/2009 2:58:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Hear the word of the gospel, and believe", (Acts 15:7) + flee from those who hold another as supreme)
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To: daniel1212
synoptic gospels in particular do not supply systematic soteriology

Ah, perfect. I love it when facing a clear scripture quoting Jesus directly, a Protestant would run to hide behind "systematic theology". What is your systematic theology worth if it does not accord with the teaching of Christ? What did St. Paul teach in Romans that Christ did not teach? Where did your sola scriptura superstition go?

What millions of Catholics evidentially live out

If you want to know what we live out, ask, and I will tell you. No, good works and Rome's power is not whot gives eternal life. Read the gospel and you will find out; in fact, I already pointed that out for you.

my comments on 6:53

You mean this:

If John 6 is what Rome says it means, then according to v. 53, in order to have “life in you”, which comes by receiving the holy Spirit (Acts 10:43-47; 11:18; 15:7-9; Eph. 2:1, 5), and to receive the gift of eternal life, then we would see the apostles preaching to take part in the Lord supper in order to be born again

That is poor grasp of eucharistic theology. The Eucharist is pointless to the unconverted; the apostles preached the necessity of conversion, penance and baptism as prerequisite to receiving Christ in the Eucharist.

89 posted on 12/15/2009 8:59:07 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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