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To: Hegewisch Dupa
But she’s dead, unable to hear all the prayers sent her way.

So what radio stations do they they get in heaven?

Do you actually seek to limit God, or suppose that He can be limited? Do you not suppose that it is within His power to allow those in Heaven the ability to hear when people still on this mortal coil address them? You might not agree that He does, but your statement appears to indicate that you do not think that He can.

You might want to read Revelation 5 from the POV that those in Heaven not only know what is going on on the earth, but receive prayers coming from us and present them to God. I won't tell you which verses support that; I'm sure you can be open-minded enough to figure them out for yourself.

115 posted on 12/08/2009 12:50:46 PM PST by magisterium
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To: magisterium

Hey, no - not me. I was commenting on the absurdity of another post that seemed to presume that heavenly souls can’t hear prayers, that’s all.


118 posted on 12/08/2009 12:55:12 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: magisterium

“Do you actually seek to limit God, or suppose that He can be limited? Do you not suppose that it is within His power to allow those in Heaven the ability to hear when people still on this mortal coil address them? You might not agree that He does, but your statement appears to indicate that you do not think that He can.”

I prefer Christ’s own rebuke. “He is a God not of the dead, but of the Living.” For Mary is not dead, she is alive in Christ. You are therefore not communicating with the dead, you are communicating with those who are alive in Christ.

For do you not truly believe in our reward of eternal life?

You might want to read Revelation 5 from the POV that those in Heaven not only know what is going on on the earth, but receive prayers coming from us and present them to God. I won’t tell you which verses support that; I’m sure you can be open-minded enough to figure them out for yourself.


163 posted on 12/08/2009 1:38:29 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: magisterium
Do you actually seek to limit God, or suppose that He can be limited? ... those in Heaven not only know what is going on on the earth, but receive prayers coming from us and present them to God.

And they do this because God was too busy to hear them? Or the Holy Spirit, which dwells in us and intercedes for us, isn't good enough to talk to God directly, but needs heavenly human spirits to do the talking?

I believe in the power of intercessory prayer, because it's use is spelled out in the Bible. But in the Bible, the intercessor is a living human here on earth.

Of course, it does not bother me in the least if others get comfort from a belief that their prayers are heard by loved ones or others in heavan, and that they are passed on to God and made more effectual. I don't see any biblical reason to believe that myself, but there is certainly much I don't understand.

188 posted on 12/08/2009 2:33:57 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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