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To: narses
The end result of being unwilling to do whatever is necessary to win, is you become subjugated by whoever IS willing to do whatever it takes.

So you endorse terrorism? Deliberate killing of civilians?

The firebombing of Dresden and the A-bombing of Hiroshima primarily killed civilians. The difference between those and a car bomb in a market place is just a matter of scale. In both cases, violence is applied against civilian populations in order to reduce political support for the enemy's position.

My position is that I will do whatever is necessary to ensure the liberty of my family and friends. If terrorism is not necessary, then I will not support it. If it is, then I will. I will advocate using the minimum necessary force, but not reject necessary force.

My scale of importance is that I value my family, friends, and fellow countrymen over those who would attempt to oppress them. I value my side's soldiers over the lives of civilian enemy supporters, and am willing to condone the killing of enemy civilians if it results in fewer casualties on our side.

In the final analysis, if it's necessary to preserve the lives and liberties of my family and friends, I am willing to do and condone actions that would make God look down from Heaven and scream in horror.

208 posted on 12/06/2009 7:31:35 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I would express the issue of terrorism a little bit differently.

The opposite of love is not hate, but fear. Many confuse chaos or the lack of order with hatred, but chaos is simply the opposite of order (the Greek words KOSMOS and KAOS are opposites meaning ‘order’ or ‘world’ and ‘chaos or disorder’).

Many confuse their adversity with an enemy with hatred, then seek harm to their adversary as a tactic for victory. They might take this one step further into seeking to cause their adversary fear or terror, in reaction to seeking authority and control over a situation. All of these steps are used in a convoluted sick mental state seeking violence on one’s adversary, without remaining in fellowship with God through faith in what He provides for righteousness and justice.

This doesn’t mean that those who oppose God, might not find themselves in a position of extreme fear or terror, but that mental state is frequently more a consequence of their past mental thinking independent of faith in What God provides, than any devotion to righteousness or justice through faith in Him.

(There are cases in Scripture, where those who have opposed Him or have fallen out of fellowship, are simply allowed to follow their incorrect mentality and suffer the consequences they brought upon themselves, without God having to invoke any action.)

Muslim terrorists fundamentally have a problem with justice. Just like nearly all other religions which operated independent of what God provides, Islam fails to recognize the perfect sacrifice made for perfect justice so man could have a righteous fellowship with God on His terms. Instead they still are able to identify injustice in human systems, and seek righteousness, and might even dedicate themselves, unto their physical death for performing something which God will find to be righteous, by being legalistic and exercise grace by their personal volition, but they fundamentally fail to understand that any such action is merely righteousness in their own eyes, unless they perform it actually under the the provision of God through faith in what He has provided to reconcile man to God. They essentially lack justification before God, but are seeking a counterfeit by performing something they yearn to find to be righteous at their own hands or thoughts independent of what He provides.

Even if they were to succeed, their actions and intentions would make God a debtor to them, rather than their God in all things.

As a consequence of their search for righteousness and desire to promote justice in their own mind, they might well yearn to cause terror in those with whom they are adversaries.

The same criticism might be held for those who defend themselves, and mistakenly fall into the trap of seeking justice at their own hands rather than through faith in Christ. This doesn’t imply a faithful justice is impotent, nor that it requires some if any reduction in violent action. Instead it simply asserts the only way to perform a right action is by performing it in a right fashion.

The proper tactic might indeed cause fear or terror in the adversary, but that is not as much the modus operendi of the righteous tactic, as performing the right action, at the right time, while remaining in fellowship with God through faith in Christ in those actions and in defending the position in which we have been provided by Him and through Him.

Those who refuse to acknowledge legitimate authority of a nation seeking to remain in fellowship with God through faith in Christ, might very well find themselves in fear and terror of having to face a righteous God, if they lack a justification which is righteous by Divine standards.

Such, though, is how every man, righteous and unrighteous finds himself when facing Divine Judgment, but through faith in Christ, there is assurance that it isn’t what we have done or haven’t done that solves the problems in life and in death, but what He provides which is veritable true, just, and righteous, which gives us hope in things to come.

The solution or debate isn’t whether or not to use terrorism, but how to remain in fellowship with God through faith in Christ in all things. Since terrorism really isn’t an issue, it simply becomes a moot point, perhaps evil worthy hateful disdain, but not a mechanism of veritable hope.


218 posted on 12/06/2009 8:50:11 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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