There’s Mass Music, and There’s Music for Mass

NC Register ^ | November 29, 2009 | MICHAEL W. DRWIEGA

[netmilsmom]

Seriously, I can’t tell you amount of parishes we hit during the summer while traveling around camping, where the “Cantor” and his production team have huge solos for every song.

Arm waving and “feeling it”. It looks silly and with so much interpretation that no one in the congregation could sing along if they tried. There isn’t meant to be participation, they are meant to be solos.

Last year, we went to a parish in the thumb region of MI where they had a little “ding” at the end of each refrain of the “Lamb of God” (which they embellished with “Prince of Peace” deviating from the GIRM). Truly, it sounded like we got the answer right on a gameshow! Then in FL, we went to a huge parish that dimmed the lights and threw a follow spot on the Priest for the consecration.

Broadway all the way!

[netmilsmom]

Probably, but it is the version of the Litany of the Hours reinstated after VII. I’m sure there were lots of “ecumenical” things considered as that was the time we blended so much.

[netmilsmom]

>>Sing the Mass. <<

I’m down wit dat.

I love a sung mass. My daughters were just invited to join the Latin choir. I’m very proud.

[Desdemona]

I very much agree with this writer. If you hear something sung or played at church that doesn't fit - SAY SOMETHING. At least he recognized it. There are a number of "music directors" out there who are less than enthusiastic about sticking to the readings or theme of the day and they need to be kept in check. Even the overzealous volunteers who overdo descants in microphones. You see it everywhere.

So, did anybody else sing "Lo, He Comes With Clouds Descending" this morning? Great hymn.

[Tax-chick]

Wow, we never go anywhere like that! Blandness is the order of the day in places we vacation.

[netmilsmom]

Come on up to MI!
(no, not really....I’ll meet you somewhere else)

[TradicalRC]

The tune and the lyrics of Morning has Broken and its use as a hymn in the Catholic Church predates Cat Stevens. This author is displaying his ignorance.

"I thought also of the church song “Morning Has Broken.” This was a song I’d first heard sung by the popular entertainer Cat Stevens, who, as far as I knew, was now a devout Muslim."

Looks to me as though the author only makes claim to where he'd first heard that song, nothing more. I'd wager most folks alive now probably had the same experience.

[Tax-chick]

Church in Myrtle Beach was bland, except for the building fund solicitation ;-).

[ctdonath2]

What of the psalms? God himself has given us words of lyrical worship, yet we insist on making up and using our own.

[netmilsmom]

We almost had to sing tonight.
If we lector and the organist doesn’t show, we have to sing.

We scrambled and found

Entrance
O come O come Emmanuel

Offertory
Come Accept the Gifts we offer

Communion
At that First Eucharist

Recessional
Holy God We Praise thy Name.

Luckily for the congregation, the organist showed up and they didn’t have to suffer.

My girls always point to “The King of Glory” and we bust up laughing.

[AnAmericanMother]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The author has made a couple of real howlers, and he's conflating quite different issues here -- which does nothing but confuse things.

Nobody (Catholic or Protestant) sings Schiller's words to “An die Freude” in church (maybe the Unitarians do, but I have my doubts as to whether that's "church"). There are a separate set of words set to the tune for use in worship, written by a Presbyterian, Henry Van Dyke, around 1900. The first line is "Joyful, joyful we adore thee" and there is nothing theologically objectionable that I can find on a short read over.

“Morning Has Broken” (its actual name is "Morning Song for the First Day of Spring") was written by a devout Anglican lady named Eleanor Farjeon back in the early 1900s. It is set to a well known (o.k., it's well known to me) Scottish folk tune that goes back who knows how far. If it's objectionable purely because Cat Stevens sang it, we're gonna have to get rid of the National Anthem because Roseanne Barr butchered it . . . this is just a silly objection to a very unobjectionable hymn.

Rejection of “A Mighty Fortress Is Our God” seems justifiable for a Catholic setting because of its close association with Luther (in fact it's sometimes called the Lutheran Anthem), but that's a completely different issue from pop music versus liturgical music, or theological problems with the lyrics. These are issues that the author never really comes to grips with -- the very worst offenders are not Top 40 or jazz tunes transferred to church, but the homegrown horrors produced by Haugen, Haas, and the St. Louis Jebbies.

In other words, the writer completely confused 3 or 4 different issues and doesn't address any of them adequately. And he gets his facts screamingly wrong.

Color me profoundly UNimpressed.

[AnAmericanMother]

Microphones should be far, FAR away from everybody, especially sopranos singing descants, assuming the church has decent acoustics. They upset the balance and usually the audio quality is not that good.

You do NOT need a microphone in our church. Our director is constantly reminding us that a well developed tone will (as he puts it) "just sweep down the nave < whoosh! > and bounce off the back wall". And it does. I don't have a big voice, but it can be heard all the way up front without a mike.

[netmilsmom]

>>If it’s objectionable purely because Cat Stevens sang it, we’re gonna have to get rid of the National Anthem because Roseanne Barr butchered it . . . this is just a silly objection to a very unobjectionable hymn.<<

I find it objectionable because we have four songs to sing at Holy Mass.
When someone without a historical music background (most of us) hear it, we think of Cat Stevens. It’s not Catholic, it’s pop and it has nothing to do with the Holy Mass.

It amazes me that everyone says Catholics don’t sing. WE sing at my parish. And do you know why we sing? Because we play the same songs. The Historically Catholics songs. We don’t sing “The Lord of the Dance”, “The King of Glory” or “Morning has Broken”.

If people truly want the congregation to participate in singing (which I doubt many times when the “Music Minister” is soloing away at parishes I visit), play something they know. Stop worrying about the choir being bored with singing the same thing. It’s not about them anyway.

[Desdemona]

Part of the problem is carpets on the floors. It soaks up sound so, mics are just a part of life. And the fact that, unfortunately, musicianship levels and the finer details like intonation are not uniform. There are also still a good number of priests out there who are just as happy with volunteers of whatever sort as people who really know what they are doing.

[Desdemona]

Stop worrying about the choir being bored with singing the same thing. It’s not about them anyway.

Well, no, it's not about them, but if the choir does the same thing over and over again, it gets sloppy and there's no growth, spiritual, musical or any other way. Not to mention, it really does bore the choir to tears. That's not to say that a standard repertoire isn't a good idea, just be sure there's variety. In my choir, we switch Mass parts by season, and do a collection of antiphons in Advent and Lent. They've been the same the last few years, but as they only come up once in the annual cycle, it's not so bad. We do two anthems a week as well, but this is the Mother Ship, as it were, or the "big house", so Holy Mass is a big more formal.

[AnAmericanMother]

It isn't pop. As I said, it's an old, old tune that was old before Cat Stevens was even born. Many old tunes wind up as hymns - Farjeon's other fairly well known hymn, "People Look East" is sung to an old French tune that probably was originally secular, but its origins are lost somewhere in the Renaissance. And the number of Irish and Scottish and English folk melodies in hymns is beyond counting -- just off the top of my head, "Lord of All Hopefulness" is set to an Irish melody, while "Who At My Door is Standing?" is "The Salley Gardens".

Now, if the 'performers' are giving a tune a pop sound, that's their problem, not the tune's. I just can't see rejecting an old melody and theologically unobjectionable words because a modern pop singer got hold of them after the copyright lapsed. "Christian Rock" singers mess with old hymns all the time, that shouldn't cause them to be rejected.

And you can't have it both ways. If the people won't sing because they don't know the music, they sure as heck know "Morning Has Broken", so they ought to sing. And whoever the 'praise band' is can tone it down and let the organ play a simple, reverent accompaniment. It gives the melody a whole different cast.

Now when it comes to actual bad music -- banal pop melodies and words written by worshippers in "The Church of Me", I'm with you all the way. Get 'em out of there.

But let's not confuse our categories.

1. There are bad hymns because they are in and of themselves bad, words and music. Let's get rid of those FIRST -- the "Eagles Wings" and "Here I Am Lord" and all that abominable junk.

2. There are hymns that are objectionable not in and of themselves, but because of various associations - "Morning Has Broken" with Cat Stevens, "A Mighty Fortress" with Luther. Can't do much about the latter since ol' Martin wrote the thing, but rather than rejecting a hymn just because some person of questionable morals or religious views performed it, perhaps a change in setting or presentation would be adequate.

3. Obviously, Protestant hymns with words that are problematic for Catholics should go. "Amazing Grace" is one of the worst offenders, but there are plenty of others. I've heard some astoundingly Baptist hymns in church . . . and a bunch of Wesley (the Methodist Brothers) stuff too.

We need to prioritize, though. My personal preference in hymns is for the old stuff out of the early German hymnals, preferably with translations by Catherine Winkworth, who was a genius in turning German into English without missing either the rhymes, the rhythm, or the meaning, or the good old Anglican standbys out of "Hymns A&M", which generally present no theological problems.

But we've got a long way to go before we start picking and choosing among the hymns that are (1) good melodies; (2) good words. I'll wait!

[Desdemona]

His point was more along the lines of being vocal about music to which he objects and it disappearing.

[netmilsmom]

>>Not to mention, it really does bore the choir to tears. <<

Well, if the choir is bored, perhaps they should realize that they are there, not to entertain nor be the focus of the mass, but like everyone else, to relive the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross.

That’s what we are there for, lest we forget.

[AnAmericanMother]

You put your finger on the problem right there. Too many priests are musically ignorant, and they let all sorts of nonsense go on that they would put a stop to if they knew how bad it was.

The analogy I used last week was with my former Episcopal rector, who of course knew good music (I think good musical taste is taught them in seminary) but knew absolutely nothing about dance.

He invited a "liturgical" "dancer" (she wasn't either) to perform (and that is the right word, it wasn't worship) one Sunday. She was AWFUL - could never have gotten a gig anywhere but in a church where the rector had two left feet.

I was pretty severe to the rector, in a humorous way. I don't usually get after the man in charge, but it was SO bad it demanded instant action, it bordered on scandalous. A bunch of other people got after him too (this was a fairly artistic parish, and many were instantly aware that Father had been conned). Thankfully he never invited her back.

But more musically inclined people need to gently inform the rector when the music gets over the edge. It can be done a lot more tactfully than I did it.

Fortunately our rector has good musical taste, and so does the deacon in charge of the music department (he was a music major at LSU).

As for carpet -- tear it out and put in stone or tile!

[HungarianGypsy]

but like everyone else, to relive the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross.

Does this mean they are supposed to suffer? Just askin'.