Posted on 11/19/2009 8:53:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
They exist, that’s not the question.
The question is: Do they or don’t they, want to eat us?
And you play a significant role in that deception.
This reporter’s slant is pretty silly, and based more on his own wishful thinking than anything else. The Vatican Observatory held a conference where the topic came up. The head of the observatory is in favor of discussing the topic of extraterrestrial life. From this we are to infer that “the Vatican,” from the pope on down, is leading some kind of charge here?
Look, the various departments that comprise “the Vatican” work with quite a bit of autonomy. Just because someone working at the Vatican says or does something, it doesn’t follow that there is all that much importance attached. The pope often is not in the loop at all. If he had to sign-off on everything that workers at the Vatican did, he might as well fire everyone and just “do everything himself.” Just as Moses was told to distribute his authority to lesser judges in order to ease his case load, and concentrate on the more important issues, so too, the pope, as earthly head of a world-wide Church, needs to delegate in lesser matters. Until the pope himself steps into this discussion one way or the other, the opinions of the Vatican Observatory’s director, Father Funes, are just that: his opinions.
Way too much is being read into this, and the stuff about Archbishop Migliore aligning the Vatican’s outlook on extraterrestrials with that of the UN is just more wishful thinking on the part of the article writer.
It’s really kind of funny. When the “Vatican,” in the person of the pope, or perhaps his Secretary of State or some other legitimate “high-ranking Vatican official” makes a statement about faith or morals that should actually get the attention of the press, the press generally ignores it. But, when some vapid topic like UFO discussion comes up, the press breathlessly hangs on every word coming from the Vatican, even when the authority is more than a few links down on the chain of command. This is the stuff for “Coast to Coast,” perhaps, but not what should be worthy of the attention of “serious” media outlets.
To devote this kind of focus to such a trivial issue is the media’s equivalent of creating a “false flag,” designed to divert attention from the Vatican’s (especially the pope himself) attempts to teach a highly corrupted world the things that lead to God. The media pretend to attach major significance to the “Vatican’s words” in such matters, but what is really wanted is a diminishing of the Vatican’s authority via the mechanism of making its pronouncements look like the stuff you can only receive by tuning-in a tinfoil hat.
I ain’t buying it.
Thanks for the ping!
Coolest post of the thread. Poul Anderson rules, he is always involving historic Catholic and Orthodox elements into his stuff. Gene Wolfe also uses Christian imagery/aspects into his speculative fiction/sci-fi/fantasy. And of course there is CS Lewis. All three treat Christianity fairly in my opinion, which is pretty rare in my experience.
Freegards
The Author is capable of having more than one Book, one room, and one Salvation. Indeed, our Book says that "In my Father's house there are many rooms." (John 14:2)
Assuming He really is omnipotent, of course...
Of course!
Wasn't high tech Nazi Germany a big improvement over Imperial Rome?
Well, obviously cow mugging anal probing Space Aliens are a big improvement over Nazi Germany...
I think/believe that sincere devotion is a delight and cherished treasure to God.
Yeah. True.
Thanks.
However, I don’t plan to wait for the snow-ball fight in hell to introduce or precede such an apology. I think a number would rather die first.
Signing on for the same reaping, I see.
I have a hard time believing I just read that.
I have a hard time believing any authentic conservative on FR wrote that.
Thanks for your continued digging.
Just a dose of his own dripping kindness, lol.
That’s real sweet of you.
However . . . it’s worth noting . . . the graph on the Vatican’s pronouncements on the topic parallels the general graph of the unfolding puzzle pieces toward more and more overt discussion and manifestations.
On this topic, The Vatican is quite in league with, in step with, in concert with, in agreement with the general trends and with the British, French, Brazilians, Canadians, Russians toward more and more frank discussion, more and more revelations, more and more dramatic manifestations.
You can fantasize all you wish about the Vatican being in a league of it’s own keeping its own counsel etc. on this topic.
IT JUST AIN’T SO.
Yes, but brilliantly executed.
I used to hope that the Vatican WAS keeping its own counsel and going to take a divergent stance on the issues and topic.
I’ve sadly had to trash that notion as it has been increasingly proven by the Vatican’s own pronouncements, that THAT is just far from the truth.
No digging necessary...it's obvious, like a rash all over the FR servers.
I’m not so sure about that.
Besides, there’s signifcant evidence that the fallen angels were in close communication with the Nazis and that the Nazi’s had built at least a protogype UFO or 3.
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