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To: sitetest

I gave you my source.
The CCC.

It is not on me to prove that your website coincides with what the CCC or Vatican says. It’s on you.

By your own words, it’s “usually” a reliable source but one when one can cross reference.

Where is the cross reference?

>>Something beats nothing,<<
Um, no. That’s what the non-Catholics say when stating from “Catholic” websites. I don’t buy it with them and I’m not buying this.


57 posted on 11/18/2009 1:14:22 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
I gave you my source. The CCC.

You sure you really want to quote that as a source?

You know who signed off on the CCC, right?

The same guy you've spent the entire thread trashing.

I mean, can we really be sure that it's right?

59 posted on 11/18/2009 1:20:55 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: netmilsmom
Dear netmilsmom,

Your quote from the Catechism can in no way be twisted to defend this:

“And honestly, as with apparitions none of us have to believe in any of them.”

In fact, here is a critical part of your quote:

“By canonizing some of the faithful, i.e., by solemnly proclaiming that they practiced heroic virtue and lived in fidelity to God’s grace,...”

This actually supports the Catholic Encyclopedia material, and certainly tells against the notion that one does not have to believe in a canonization. Did you miss the words “solemnly proclaim”?

As for the reliability of the Catholic Encyclopedia material that I cited, it has plenty of references to a number of prominent Catholic theologians, including St. Thomas Aquinas.

“That’s what the non-Catholics say when stating from ‘Catholic’ websites. I don’t buy it with them and I’m not buying this.”

Then do your own homework to discover whether one may disbelieve a canonization of the Church. Or better yet, read your own citation of the Catechism that teaches that the Church "solemnly proclaims" canonizations.

I think you'll find that one may not disbelieve the Church's canonizations of saints and also maintain that one is a Catholic.


sitetest

64 posted on 11/18/2009 1:29:19 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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