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To: Phantom4; Sherman Logan
"This type of argument convinced General Lew Wallace (author of Ben-Hur) and law Professor Simon Greenleaf, who went on to write a book about how his law students challenged his agnosticsm. His wound up being titled The Testimony of the Evangelists as Examined by the Rules of Evidence (or some title to that effect—I can’t remember exactly)."

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"This type of argument convinced General Lew Wallace (author of Ben-Hur) and law Professor Simon Greenleaf, who went on to write a book about how his law students challenged his agnosticsm. His wound up being titled The Testimony of the Evangelists as Examined by the Rules of Evidence (or some title to that effect—I can’t remember exactly)."

I heard recently that good evidence for the veracity of the New Testament writers was the fact that in a 1st century setting, they made women look better than themselves and they, themselves portrayed, as weaklings. Certainly if they were trying to fool anyone they went about it in a very peculiar way.

13 posted on 11/11/2009 12:37:42 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

Those are good points. What they prove, however, is that the apostles told the truth as they saw it.

It does not prove “their truth” was in alignment with objective truth.

IOW, they weren’t liars, but they could certainly have been wrong.


16 posted on 11/11/2009 12:42:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: GonzoII
I heard recently that good evidence for the veracity of the New Testament writers was the fact that in a 1st century setting, they made women look better than themselves and they, themselves portrayed, as weaklings.

Sounds like they are now writers for ABC/CBS/NBC sitcoms.

23 posted on 11/11/2009 12:49:06 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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