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To: xone

If Christ’s sacrifice has made believers “clean” in the sight of God, would it not be presumptive, even insulting and belittling the efficacy and purpose and efficacy of Christ’s sacrifice, for me to presume that those those saved have need of further appeals for mercy from me through my prayers? Did not Christ achieve objective redemption of all creation, a salvation subjectively conferred upon all that are granted a saving faith?


12 posted on 11/02/2009 10:50:53 AM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Elsiejay

Indeed. We can’t even save our own miserable selves.


13 posted on 11/02/2009 2:24:57 PM PST by T Minus Four (This post is not approved by the White House!)
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To: Elsiejay
would it not be presumptive, even insulting and belittling the efficacy and purpose and efficacy of Christ’s sacrifice, for me to presume that those those saved have need of further appeals for mercy from me through my prayers?

If that's true of prayer for the dead, it would be just as true of prayer for the living.

It's really rather surreal to claim that beseeching God for mercy -- whether for yourself, for another living brother or sister, or for someone who has died in the Lord -- "belittles the efficacy and purpose of Christ's sacrifice". What do you think Christ's sacrifice was all about?

15 posted on 11/02/2009 4:00:06 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Elsiejay
would it not be presumptive, even insulting and belittling the efficacy and purpose and efficacy of Christ’s sacrifice, for me to presume that those those saved have need of further appeals for mercy from me through my prayers?

One would think.

16 posted on 11/02/2009 7:57:30 PM PST by xone
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