[Mad Dawg]

Again, we would need to do some work on how God can mqanipulate time without being outside of it.

On another track -- philosophical question, I fear -- how can we talk about God in time without slipping into a kind of ditheism :God and Time. Would we want to say God MADE time?

My head hurts.

[Mr Rogers]

For the most part, I find these discussion too much for my noggin.

What I have are a number of verses in a number of places where it seems time is an integral part of God Himslef - hence Jesus DID something, is now waiting, and will do something else.

One possible explanation would be that God was ‘talking down’ to us, which is often required. However, I think the idea that God is outside time is simple enough that He could have revealed so without anyone batting an eye.

Another explanation is that time is somehow integral to God, as is truth, love, etc.

For philosophy, I find it best to TRY to limit what is stated categorically to what God has revealed. Beyond that, we should be free to disagree without harm. Where to draw that line is probably beyond me...