Posted on 10/31/2009 1:37:08 PM PDT by NYer
Then again, Matthew was a tax collector, Mary Magdalen was a prostitute and Peter denied Jesus three times.
I'm hoping Levada does good and want to see him succeed! Hence the cheerleading.....
Again, every day there is a different story. That's all I meant.
Soap operas are developing stories too, Vlad. :)
And your opinion represents the Magisterium?
THe downside of subsidiarity: If the higher ups won’t do it, then it’s up to us grunts. Let’s go kick some liberal butt! (Easy for me to say from 3k miles away.)
True. But they’re written out ahead of time. This is developing organically and effects so many people. That’s why so many of us find its new developments interesting.
You wrote:
“And your opinion represents the Magisterium?”
Well, the universal Church didn’t suffer much with that last divorced priest. I have a friend, who was divorced, and his bishop wants to ordain him - even though he’s remarried. It’s already been approved by Rome. And no, I do not know all the circumstances of his first marriage, but the bishop seems to see no scandal there. I ain’t losing sleep over this. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n31_v31/ai_17005915/
You wrote:
“How can a decision be made before the canonical legalities have been worked out?”
It is the soap operas that are written out ahead of time. You apparently misunderstood what I was saying.
“And if all the legalities have been worked out, why all the speculations and drama?”
Again, you apparently misunderstood what I was saying.
My apologies.
Wouldn’t it only be an “official” scandal if he “remarried”? If your wife leaves you, it’s going to cause a stir, but it doesn’t rise, IMHO, to the level of scandal.
No problem!
Official scandal? Lol! A priest confects the Eucharist. He changes the matter of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ. His hands were consecrated at the time of his ordination. Think about that, rather than measuring it against the contemporary trends of society.
I know all that. If somebody;s wife ups and leaves him, well, it might bear looking into, but it MIGHT be nothing to do with him, qua him. Even if one exercises great judgment at the time of marriage, people change and not everyone thinks what we think about matrimony - especially if they're Episcopalians.
I mean, I certainly that priest is out of the marriage market, and I always said in the old days if I were in charge the priest would be relieved of pastoral responsibility for some time, and the causes would have to be examined.
IS it your thought a priest ought to have an unimpeachable in any respect whatsoever marriage? Bot all of that is under his control, but it IS a great argument for celibacy.
An interesting thing in my diocese: we have a priest who was married, then divorced and annulled, and then became a priest (a late vocation). I had no idea that was allowed and had never heard of it before.
In my former diocese, the bishop (who was the #3 ranking bishop in the church in terms of date of consecration) divorced his wife of three decades, annulled his own marriage, then remarried a divorced woman on Palm Sunday and honeymooned out of the US on Easter Sunday. So much for his “headship” of the diocese and for his flock and for the teraching of Holy Scripture. I left the Episcopal Church shortly thereafter.
It's great being Bishop!
And Senator and Mrs. Elizabeth Taylor were married by the then Bishop of the Pepsicola Diocese of Virginia. I believe that was marriage number Seven for Ms. Violet Eyes to Die For.
Sacrament, schmacrament!
The River Tiber is deep and cold
The Green Gather Hymnal chills the soul.
But Sacraments burn with sacred fire,
Giving us each our heart's desire.
Alleluia.
(To the Tune of "Michael Row the Boat Ashore.)
I’m familiar with Father William Shields. However, he’s not the only divorced Catholic priest. Also, there are divorced men who were ordained priests after getting annulments. Just like widowers can be ordained priests, the church under certain conditions allows men who are divorced to be ordained if the marriage was annulled. However, he can not be ordained if the annulment was granted due to his immaturity.
I forgot to mention the bishop also had five children. What does the annulment make them?
It's the same among us RCs. An annulment does not make the children bastards. It does make the parents fornicators, though clearly not usually with, uh, malice aforethought.
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