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Our Friend, Death
Catholic Exchange ^ | October 30, 2009 | Patti Maguire Armstrong

Posted on 10/30/2009 10:09:23 AM PDT by NYer

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Patti Maguire Armstrong is the mother of ten children including two Kenyan AIDS orphans. She is a speaker and the author of Catholic Truths for Our Children: A Parent's Guide (Scepter) and the children's book, Dear God, I Don't Get It!" (Bezalel). She was also the managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press's Amazing Grace book series. Her website is RaisingCatholicKids.com.

1 posted on 10/30/2009 10:09:24 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

I disagree that cancer is a gift.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 10:11:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
And here is another fact. You will never see this truck in a funeral cortege.

So be generous during your life and give to charity, with your heart, not just from the excess change in the bottom of your pocket. This is especially true now, when many people are struggling to financially stay afloat.

3 posted on 10/30/2009 10:13:03 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Good post.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 10:41:30 AM PDT by marron
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To: NYer

Great article!


5 posted on 10/30/2009 12:44:21 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: stuartcr

Amen on THAT!

I do have a question though for my Christian friends. I’m pretty much agnostic and always questioning and this is one question I ask myself that I can’t seem to understand. If you truly in heart and soul believe that God promises an eternal wonderful life, why do we then see doctors to stave off death? Why aren’t people killing themselves routinely to enter this wonderful Kingdom?

I’m honestly not at all trying to be snarky, but it just makes no sense to me. Just as this person saying that cancer is a “gift”. Nope. Just don’t understand that at all.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 12:57:43 PM PDT by battletank
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To: battletank

I don’t understand what God created cancer in the first place, much less create people that He knows will die horribly from it, and their loved ones will suffer along with them.

I guess if you don’t promise something, then no one will do what you tell tehm to.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 1:17:44 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: stuartcr

I’m pretty with you on all that. I just don’t understand how a Loving God could or would have horrific diseases and horrible deaths on his agenda.


8 posted on 10/30/2009 1:44:22 PM PDT by battletank
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To: battletank

You have to look at the big picture.
My dad died of cancer when I was 21. People look at me and say, “How do you live with your Dad dying while you were so young?”

It taught me that life is very short. That one must love bigger than time. That every moment is a gift. And that love stays even when the person is gone.

I teach my children these things because I could be hit by a bus tomorrow. None of us live forever.

Those who are religious know that those that pass before us are in heaven. We will see them again. We learn patience. And personally, I don’t get how anyone who doesn’t trust in Our Lord makes it through.


9 posted on 10/30/2009 2:03:59 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: battletank
If you truly in heart and soul believe that God promises an eternal wonderful life, why do we then see doctors to stave off death? Why aren’t people killing themselves routinely to enter this wonderful Kingdom?

Its not hard to understand. You have things to do here. You have people who count on you. You've probably seen the stories of the wounded soldiers jumping through every hoop to get back to their unit in combat, their pals are counting on them. When you get ready to draw your last breath you'll be looking at what you've left undone and you may fight to stay and finish it, or you may be at peace with what you've done and you'll make ready to leave.

As for cancer, I know very well that its not a pleasant way to go. If you go in a car wreck you've had no time to say your goodbys or get your affairs in order. The cancer patient does, on the other hand, know pretty certainly that he is on his way out and has that chance to say goodby and settle his affairs.

My opinion is that, if life is eternal, then its already eternal. My primary wish is to leave things in order, leave my family in order, hopefully outlive my wife so I can know I saw her all the way to the end, and then go out myself as gracefully as possible for the sake of the kids who must watch me go. I don't fear death at all, only leaving things in a mess when I go.

10 posted on 10/30/2009 2:31:49 PM PDT by marron
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To: NYer

I once had a thought that death walked across the universe to finally meet you. He has to walk it and we have to meet him. The meeting will be as natural as birth.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 10:38:03 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: battletank
If you truly in heart and soul believe that God promises an eternal wonderful life, why do we then see doctors to stave off death? Why aren’t people killing themselves routinely to enter this wonderful Kingdom? I’m honestly not at all trying to be snarky, but it just makes no sense to me. Just as this person saying that cancer is a “gift”. Nope. Just don’t understand that at all.

Now if a woman was pregnant and didn't want to go through with the normal 9-month cycle because she wanted her joy to come more quickly (and she could find someone to surgically deliver her child earlier), it would not then be in God's time, and her baby might have permanent disabilities because of it. Same with you! If you attempt to disrupt God's plan by killing yourself or not at least making an attempt to procure a cure for your ailment, your permanent place in His kingdom could well be “disabled.” In other words, purgatory, or much worse, hell.

And if you have a friend that has a disease, wouldn’t you know their suffering completely if you had the disease or similar suffering yourself? Christ has suffered more than anyone on this earth. One way to get to know Him better and be "complete" friends, is to experience His suffering firsthand. That’s where cancer becomes a gift. The gift is opened when one embraces Christ on His Cross and suffers right along with Him. At that point, an unbreakable bond is formed, ensuring eternal life.

Not everyone receives such a "gift," though, but there is still "hope" for them too.:)

"Holy Communion is the shortest and the safest way to Heaven. There are others: Innocence, for instance, but that is for little children. Penance, but we are afraid of it. Generous endurance of the trials of life, but when they come we weep and ask to be spared. The surest, easiest, shortest way is by the Eucharist" -St. Pius X.
12 posted on 10/31/2009 12:28:06 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: battletank

I figure He isn’t a loving God, as we would define loving. I think He is above any kind of human description we can assign to Him.


13 posted on 11/01/2009 7:11:58 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: NYer

A co-worker of mine lost his sister to cancer last week. She was 41. Two days later his brother-in-law, his sister’s husband, died. He was 44 and they left two children, 16 and 11. I doubt that anyone in that family is looking at death as their friend.


14 posted on 11/01/2009 7:14:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: netmilsmom

My father had a massive stroke at 37. Lost his speech and was paralyzed on his right side. Was given 24-48 hours max to live. He lived 9 years with the love of his family (me, my mother, and my brother) taking care of him every day until I was 11 years old when he died while I was out at a birthday party.

Sometimes what is understood doesn’t need to be discussed.


15 posted on 11/01/2009 7:20:30 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

What a beautiful post. So full of love.

There is a bigger picture than we see a moment at a time.


16 posted on 11/01/2009 8:19:31 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Life is long.
No one sees the blessings immediately.


17 posted on 11/01/2009 8:21:32 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NYer

I’m curious as to how many people have looked a cancer patient in the face, and told them it’s a gift from God?


18 posted on 11/02/2009 5:54:58 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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"I’m pretty with you on all that. I just don’t understand how a Loving God could or would have horrific diseases and horrible deaths on his agenda."

CS Lewis wrote two seminal books on the subject...The Problem of Pain and A Grief Observed. The second is essentially a collection of his notes following the death of his one true love...Joy Gresham, who like his mother died of a horrible cancer. A cynic need not even pick them up to easily dismiss his works as rationalizations within a Christian context, but I'd invite anybody who cares to be intellectually honest about the matter to at least take a look at them. If you'd care to peruse them, Chapter 1 of "A Grief Observed" is available here.

19 posted on 11/02/2009 6:07:36 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I observe grief everyday, first hand. I don’t need a book.


20 posted on 11/02/2009 10:05:53 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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