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Actually

. . . . it’s far more often been the case, in my 62 years . . .

that nondescript fringe folks who were social ‘nobodies’ in the world’s eyes . . . and often who had poor grammar and poor education and often poorly matching clothes

but KNEW JESUS AND THE FATHER SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INTIMATELY

were significantly more anointed and accurate, as a group, in their prophetic ministries, than those on the other end of such proprieties.

I think God loves doing things that way. He has a habit of upsetting conventionial sensibilities about surfact things.

True throughout Scripture. True in my experiences wth Him.


330 posted on 10/29/2009 4:39:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

***that nondescript fringe folks who were social ‘nobodies’ in the world’s eyes . . . and often who had poor grammar and poor education and often poorly matching clothes

but KNEW JESUS AND THE FATHER SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INTIMATELY***

Are you recommending a return to the Middle Ages where bathing was regarded as satanic?

***I think God loves doing things that way. ***

So God really does hate Procter and Gamble.

***True in my experiences wth Him.***

Do you bathe regularly?


336 posted on 10/29/2009 4:45:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Quix

So God picks folks with poor grammar and poor education and poorly matching clothes to be prophets because you think God loves doing things that way.?Because you think God has a habit about upsetting conventional sensibilities?

That sounds more like a rationalization to justify in a bunch of fringe beliefs and concepts. It sounds like an excuse for the “prophet” Jedediah.

I find it odd that God’s grammatical limitations are the exact same limitations of the mere mortal Jedediah. Stunning coincidence, don’t you think?


337 posted on 10/29/2009 4:49:29 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Quix
Actually . . . . it’s far more often been the case, in my 62 years . . . that nondescript fringe folks who were social ‘nobodies’ in the world’s eyes . . . and often who had poor grammar and poor education and often poorly matching clothes but KNEW JESUS AND THE FATHER SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INTIMATELY

Apart from a certain overwrought tone here, and the bit about "anointing," did I say otherwise? Did you actually read my post? We witness to and for Christ in all of our speech and actions, if we act according to the grace He gives us. But this sort of witnessing involves using our own words in virtually every case. On the very rare occasion where God wishes to have His words conveyed through a mere human, He generally gets the grammar of the language of the seer down correctly, and the person can thus quote Him in such a way that the very words used convey part of the message's authenticity. But the poor grammar, vocabulary and thought organization of these "quotes" from Jedediah's fantasies betoken a lack of authenticity.

I happen to disagree with a lot of the theology (I use the term loosely) in these ravings. But, even if I agreed with all of their sentiments, my mere assent to their content is no evidence whatsoever that they are legitimate locutions from God Himself. These locutions are getting dangerous!

Now, God is ordering His people to prepare for certain events, and do certain things. Jedediah dares to force God's hand with respect to timing and circumstances of His return??? Clearly, these are not real quotes from God, or they'd be better phrased and thought-out. Therefore, they are false attributions of His actual will. They might be "good" wishful thinking, but they are not His words! So, what if these words from Jedediah are "wrong"? What if God comes for His own a hundred, five hundred or ten thousand years from now?

The urgency of these "messages" will bring about a false hope (and a false sense of righteousness connected to that hope) to all of Jedediah's believers. They will be disinclined to worry about the anti-Christian times already upon us, because they're convinced He's coming for them any day now, and they'll get a pass on dealing with those times. But what happens to their faith if they wind-up "stuck" here on earth for the duration? It shouldn't take Solomon in all of his widom to see some likely outcomes here. Satan wins in those outcomes, through the discouragement and apostasy of erstwhile believers feeling they've been conned, who chuck it all in the face of possibly quite intense persecution. That sort of thing is very likely to be a good chunk of the "great apostasy" Jesus foretold!

How much time do you want to give these "prophesies" to pan out? The alleged words of Christ in them seem to sound as though you should be raptured out of here in no more than a matter of a few months. Will you concede the false nature of these locutions if, in two years, you are still stuck here on the FR religion forum?

Unlike Jedediah, I don't claim to have any special standing in God's eyes, and don't hear His voice giving me explicit messages to convey. I don't claim to know the future beyond perhaps the next few seconds (at best), as they might pertain to events taking place within a few feet of me. Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure you and I, and the rest of the folks on this thread, will either be still typing away on this forum, or rid of this mortal coil as individuals, and not through any misapprehended notions of the Rapture.

On January 1, 2013, the entire crowd here on the FR religion forum will deride the credulous who thought Mayan prophecies about 2012 had any merit. Again, unless we're called home as individuals in the meantime, you and I will likely be among them, and, in our very act of derision, provide evidence that Jedediah is a false prophet. I have every confidence of that...but, when those circumstances prove me right, I promise you and everyone here that I won't claim any "prophet" label!

363 posted on 10/29/2009 5:19:03 PM PDT by magisterium
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[...] that nondescript fringe folks who were social ‘nobodies’ in the world’s eyes [...]

Absolutely true - though not in all cases... There certainly is a tendency for the Lord to do His will through the things that the worldly consider foolish and lowly...

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are:
1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

(e-Sword:KJV)

I make particular note of those haughty folks on this thread who speak ill of street folks, and laugh at raggedy preachers standing on street corners...

It is all too obvious that some have spent much time in whitewashed, expensively decorated tombs.

390 posted on 10/30/2009 12:33:57 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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