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Very true, but a hard sell to those that have misconstrued "absent from the body, present with the Lord," and those that wish to pray to dead men. Otherwise how could the "dead" be raised?

It stems from a belief in an immortal soul. Many don't realize that eternal life is a gift from God.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Sin = death, eternal life is a gift given to believers upon being resurrected. The spirit is a promise, a guarantee of that.

2Co 5:5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

The test of whether we have eternal life NOW or the promise of a future eternal life is easy. Do we die? So far every human who ever lived has died. Only one has been resurrected to glory, Jesus Christ.

77 posted on 11/01/2009 11:35:59 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
The test of whether we have eternal life NOW or the promise of a future eternal life is easy. Do we die? So far every human who ever lived has died. Only one has been resurrected to glory, Jesus Christ.

This ignores the question of whether we have any other life than physical life.

If we don't have spiritual life, then how can we be ...
... "absent from the body, present with the Lord" ?
Also, ... did Jesus have any type of life between His death ... and resurrection ?

Didn't He descend into hell to preach to the spirits which were imprisoned there ?
Ephesians 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,

19 through whom[d] also he went and preached to the spirits in prison

20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
And ... btw, ... what type of life did these disobedient spirits have ?

It certainly wasn't physical.

79 posted on 11/01/2009 12:26:10 PM PST by Quester
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To: DouglasKC
The test of whether we have eternal life NOW or the promise of a future eternal life is easy. Do we die? So far every human who ever lived has died. Only one has been resurrected to glory, Jesus Christ.

Except for enoch and elijah

80 posted on 11/01/2009 12:30:46 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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