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Christopher Hitchens: Faith No More, What I've learned from debating religious people worldwide.
Slate ^ | 10/26/2009 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 10/26/2009 6:44:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Aria

Atheism is often close to anarchism, due to their shared antipathy toward authority. And as man is religious by nature, in atheistic societies man ends up being worshiped.

It is not real belief in God that atheists rebel against, but the moral authority He represents, and the eye through which they see Him in the Bible (and thus misrepresent Him) is is a result of that rage, which is present in the sinful nature of all of us.

(Rom 8:7) “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.”

In contrast to the atheists creation (depiction) of god, the thousands of hymns written about God and Christ (in addition to other things) by stable and rational souls, testify to the reality of Him and God’s work in their heart and life, and i think are unique in their scope and depth.


21 posted on 10/26/2009 7:54:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: SeekAndFind
Last I heard of Hitch, he was busy sandbagging Mother Teresa, in the most vile, offensive language.

I switched off to his rantings at that point.

He's a pitiable wretch who needs bow-coo prayers!

22 posted on 10/26/2009 7:55:31 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: BelleAl

The argument is one thing, but saying Einstein said it is another.


23 posted on 10/26/2009 8:02:48 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: JPG

Christopher drinks like he does not because he’s an alcoholic, he’s an alcoholic to avoid the still small voice within. Many have gone sober when they realized there was someone after them, after their soul. Perhaps one day Hitch will awaken to see the Hound of Heaven, also.


24 posted on 10/26/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hitchens was a socialist most of his adult life and still is to some extent. He's 60 years old. He's been married twice. He's part Jewish from his maternal side. His father was a naval officer who was especially reserved. His mother committed suicide in an Athens hotel.

He has a conservative brother with whom he was estranged for years. They did get together a couple years ago, but it appears something has re-ignited the falling-out. He has and does write for just about everything in the print media. He lectures and appears on TV occasionally. He's a fellow at the Hoover Institute think tank. He's both a workaholic and an alcoholic.

Not much time to squeeze religion into such a busy, lusty life, perhaps. But then really, who cares?

Leni

25 posted on 10/26/2009 8:06:15 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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bump


26 posted on 10/26/2009 8:25:50 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: MinuteGal

Has Hitch quit smoking?... I forget


27 posted on 10/26/2009 8:29:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: randomhero97

I agree he is sharp, and I don’t consider myself the most religious guy, but his arguments are so full of venom and hate and his public appearances are so plagued with bloodshot eyes and slurred eyes, it’s gotta be the booze.


28 posted on 10/26/2009 8:32:19 PM PDT by liberty75
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To: SeekAndFind
I've seen Hitch in debates on religion and he's unbeatable, standing up for a rational, secular approach to life. And he's one of the most articulate opponents of the Islamists and for values that liberals in the past actually believed in such as free speech and not cowering before fanatic enemies of civilization!
29 posted on 10/26/2009 8:48:37 PM PDT by Ed Hudgins (Rand fan)
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To: Ed Hudgins
I've seen Hitch in debates on religion and he's unbeatable

He is articulate, I'll give him that. But in terms of logic and reasoning, Dinesh D' Souza owned him in my opinion.
30 posted on 10/26/2009 8:50:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: randomhero97

I think you’re right.


31 posted on 10/27/2009 12:23:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RobbyS; rsobin
You objection is substantiated by the fact that Dawkins talks about space aliens seeding the world.

And they have and continue to spend how much money and resources trying to prove their is life out there and have come up with how much proof? Zero.

32 posted on 10/27/2009 1:15:46 AM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Wife of D28Man
Oh Christopher, Christopher! I am so fond of you; I continue to hope that you will see the light. I even remember to pray about it whenever you go off on one of your nasty natterings against the faithful. You are much too amusing to consign to hell.

I like Christopher, too. My prayers join yours. Only The LORD God Almighty can turn the light of faith on. Hopefully Christopher will not reject The LORD God Almighty to keep his station in this realm. Nothing is worth his soul.

33 posted on 10/27/2009 1:21:37 AM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: daniel1212

It is an interesting argument...presented in a way I’ve never thought of. I, too, doubted the Einstein angle, but he may have been a different child than adult. I’d love to see it debunked/proven. I don’t know if it’s on Snopes — I haven’t checked.


34 posted on 10/27/2009 3:37:36 AM PDT by BelleAl
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To: BelleAl

Snopes says he did not say it, and finds the analogy wanting.


35 posted on 10/27/2009 4:08:03 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: MHGinTN
In October, 2008 he said he had just given up smoking. I don't know if he's still smoke-free.

Leni

36 posted on 10/27/2009 6:45:17 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Wife of D28Man
I even remember to pray about it whenever you go off on one of your nasty natterings against the faithful. You are much too amusing to consign to hell.

Watch the video. I saw the screening at the Desiring God conference and ordered a copy for a Christian student group that I advise.

I think that you will be surprised by a statement made by Hitchens. Certainly, Doug was at the time and the conference attendees were when they saw the video. I think that the Holy Spirit is working on Christopher Hitchens' heart. He might be closer than most think. I'm sure that Saul of Taurus was a tougher nut to crack than Hitchens, so there is always hope.

37 posted on 10/27/2009 7:31:00 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: Aria; Just mythoughts
Christopher Hitchens how about you just stop dancing around the black hole of religions and tell us why you are so ticked off at the Heavenly Father. I think he had a sister who had an early and brutal death from cancer.

Even worse was the death of his mother. It was when he was a young man at University - she eloped off to Greece with another man - then Christopher was suddenly summoned to identify her body. Her lover had either killed her or got her into a suicide pact. This homicidal lunatic was (I think) a deranged ex-priest, or something of that sort.

38 posted on 11/05/2009 3:40:15 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Thanks for this - no wonder the poor guy drinks. Hard to make sense of all the pain in the world.


39 posted on 11/05/2009 3:54:00 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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