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Posted on 10/25/2009 8:36:54 PM PDT by Jedediah
Joint combined retrofitting of my body and church is aggregating into its finished mold now " The Bride of Christ " , for all things foreign to my body are being dismembered and the ambiguity taking away from the clear view of all she is in this hour is being dissolved , leaving a clarity of the heart and spirit of My Bride so " The Mind of Christ " in all its manifold wisdom and glory may be revealed no longer "The Hidden Manna" but but a pronounced finality about to evolve completely true and faithful . So posture your heart before me that I may trim your wick and let the "Oil of Unity" feed the light in you " The love of The Father " for truly this is the light he delights in seeing in " a humble fear of who he is " your magistrate and only God and Shalom .
John 6:15 15Then Jesus, knowing that they meant to come and seize Him that they might make Him king, withdrew again to the hillside by Himself alone.
16When evening came, His disciples went down to the sea, 17And they took a boat and were going across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and still Jesus had not [yet] come back to them. 18Meanwhile, the sea was getting rough and rising high because of a great and violent wind that was blowing.
19[However] when they had rowed three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and approaching the boat. And they were afraid (terrified).
20But Jesus said to them, It is I; be not afraid! [I AM; stop being frightened!](A)
21Then they were quite willing and glad for Him to come into the boat. And now the boat went at once to the land they had steered toward. [And immediately they reached the shore toward which they had been slowly making their way.]
22The next day the crowd [that still remained] standing on the other side of the sea realized that there had been only one small boat there, and that Jesus had not gone into it with His disciples, but that His disciples had gone away by themselves.
23But now some other boats from Tiberias had come in near the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
24So the people, finding that neither Jesus nor His disciples were there, themselves got into the small boats and came to Capernaum looking for Jesus.
25And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, Rabbi! When did You come here?
26Jesus answered them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, you have been searching for Me, not because you saw the miracles and signs but because you were fed with the loaves and were filled and satisfied.
27Stop toiling and doing and producing for the food that perishes and decomposes [in the using], but strive and work and produce rather for the [lasting] food which endures [continually] unto life eternal; the Son of Man will give (furnish) you that, for God the Father has authorized and certified Him and put His seal of endorsement upon Him.
28They then said, What are we to do, that we may [habitually] be working the works of God? [What are we to do to carry out what God requires?]
29Jesus replied, This is the work (service) that God asks of you: that you believe in the One Whom He has sent [that you cleave to, trust, rely on, and have faith in His Messenger].
30Therefore they said to Him, What sign (miracle, wonderwork) will [a]You perform then, so that we may see it and believe and rely on and adhere to You? What [supernatural] work have You [to show what You can do]?
31Our forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as the Scripture says, He gave them bread out of heaven to eat.(B)
32Jesus then said to them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Moses did not give you the Bread from heaven [what Moses gave you was not the Bread from heaven], but it is My Father Who gives you the true heavenly Bread.
33For the Bread of God is He Who comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world.
34Then they said to Him, Lord, give us this bread always (all the time)!
35Jesus replied, I am the Bread of Life. He who comes to Me will never be hungry, and he who believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me will never thirst any more (at any time).
36But [as] I told you, although you have seen Me, still you do not believe and trust and have faith.
37All whom My Father gives (entrusts) to Me will come to Me; and the one who comes to Me I will most certainly not cast out [I will never, no never, reject one of them who comes to Me].
38For I have come down from heaven not to do My own will and purpose but to do the will and purpose of Him Who sent Me.
39And this is the will of Him Who sent Me, that I should not lose any of all that He has given Me, but that I should give new life and raise [them all] up at the last day.
40For this is My Father's will and His purpose, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in and cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up [from the dead] at the last day.
Holy mackerel.
The just get bolder and bolder.
I am not lording over others as ?
I realize that some rabid folks of various persuasions can be
very INCAPABLE of DISCRIMMINATING
BETWEEN
INDIVIDUAL VS GROUP
MEMBER VS THE MASSES
PERSON VS THE STRUCTURE
PERSON VS THE INSTITUTION
PERSON VS THE EDIFICE
GROUP OF PERSONS VS THE STRUCTURE
ALL THE PERSONS IN THE STRUCTURE VS THE STRUCTURE
SUBSETS OF PERSONS IN THE STRUCTURE VS THE STRUCTURE
For some set of reasons, this INCAPACITY seems to be most vividly displayed by the rabid Vatican and affiliated congregations' agents.
That set of reasons would be an interesting study in itself, though an exhausting one. I think two most significant reasons are (A) the typical ATTACHMENT DISORDER childhoods of individuals and (B) an institutional dogma, meme, doctrine, custom, culture wherein the institution is equated with God in thought, ritual, actions, expectations etc.
So, with (A) we have the compulsion from folks with low self-confidence and low-self worth [regardless of their achievements or bank accounts] who have a deep bone marrow, genetic level desperate need to BELONG and to be approved by preferably a GROUP, an authority, a FATHER FIGURE, . . . even better an old large INSTITUTION seen as GRAND and full of elegant !!!!TRADITIONS!!!!
Trouble is, like infants still not quite managing the MOTHER VS ME distinction . . . there's seemingly NO CAPACITY to consider themselves as individuals apart from the INSTITUTION.
So, Mary, such individuals will always COMPULSIVELY react to any negative characterization of ANY ASPECT OF THE INSTITUTION as a personal assault on them as individuals, and indeed as though it were on all the individuals in the institution.
Such stances need to be persistently considered for what they are--manifestations of infantile mentalities, emotionalities, lack of maturing and individuating . . . a lack of a sense of successful competence as an individual such that one can continue to see the world and construe the world as a context in which they operate vs a context in which they are an ENMESHED COG IN THE VAST INSTITUTION or . . . an enmeshed blob as an amoebic appendage on the amorphus mass of the INSTITUTION--unable to see or draw any boundaries between the INDIVIDUAL SELF and the INSTITUTION.
Such folks make horrific marriage partners, coworkers and particularly bosses. They have a lot of trouble with boundaries, with perspective, with context and with nuance. They tend to run roughshod over everyone around them with ever increasing demands and pressures toward perfectionism etc. etc.
There's probably, practically speaking, no likely cure, short of a Damascus Road miracle, for the most rabid Vatican related cliques hereon. The puffing and spewing will continue any time the INSTITUTION is perceived to be even slightly assailed. Objective discourse or genuine dialogue is impossible with such folks. Their emotionality meters tend to be maxed out all the time. THEIR HONOR is triggered any time the INSTITUTION is remotely castigated. Actually, it's their pride and insecurities but they'll insist it's their honor.
Probably the best thing that can be done is to continue to use them to bump threads up and to share useful redemptive info for the lurkers.
It can be briefly fun sport to play with them. Though recently that fun has been greatly tarnished by the outrageous increase in the horrific manifestations of some of the nastier and more vividly sad aspects of their maladies. At some point, it's not remotely fun to suddenly realize one has been playing kickball with someone who has no legs.
I think I’ve seen hereon over the years . . . an increase in the ‘foolishness’ perspective somewhat geometrically . . . as though some folks were
. . . getting . . .
significantly . . . more clueless in spiritual areas.
No.
BLASPHEMY = PROFANE ABUSE OF GOD
We realize that particularly some rabid Vatican related types have this deep rooted incapacity to
DISTINGUISH
between a lot of things in reality.
However, for most of us . . .
There is
GOD VS EVERYTHING ELSE.
“Saints” are part of the class of “EVERYTHING ELSE.”
They are NOT God regardless of how compulsively and UNBIBLICALLY Vatican doctrines, customs, rituals and heresies try to shoehorn them into being GOD.
LOL!
LOL!
I’ll have to assume that rambling screed is an attack on Catholics.
It doesn’t bother me, I’m a Presbyterian when I bother to go to an organized church.
Fact is, LOTS of folks can see through the deception of the latest false prophet. Clarity is not limited to Catholics.
I’ve slammed some Catholics.. Mormons, too. But the thing here is that folks ACROSS THE BOARD reject the nonsensical rantings of this fake prophet.
Even some of us who have been.. shall we say “at odds” for years can unite against this common blasphemy.
Ahhhhhh
this confusion/conflation again . . .
against heresies = against Roman Catholocism.
Amazing incapacities of perception in that camp.
I agree, some people’s faith is so wafer-thin that they are putting faith in an internet prophet!!!!! WOW, it’s really freaky, in fact it’s one of the most bizarre, unbelievable scenarios I’ve ever experienced. Certainly the oddest thing that I’ve ever seen happen at Free Republic. I sometimes do a double take it’s so weird.
Wellllllll . . . if they disagree with his loftiness! LOL.
. . . and possibly worse ones as well.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . .
A new sort of Roman Catholic/Vatican affiliated mirror ritual--PROJECTION PRACTICE session transcript?
. . . not read the C & SB . . .
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of course not.
It is heresy for some cliques to deal in facts. LOL.
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