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Posted on 10/25/2009 8:36:54 PM PDT by Jedediah
Holy mackerel.
The just get bolder and bolder.
I am not lording over others as ?
I realize that some rabid folks of various persuasions can be
very INCAPABLE of DISCRIMMINATING
BETWEEN
INDIVIDUAL VS GROUP
MEMBER VS THE MASSES
PERSON VS THE STRUCTURE
PERSON VS THE INSTITUTION
PERSON VS THE EDIFICE
GROUP OF PERSONS VS THE STRUCTURE
ALL THE PERSONS IN THE STRUCTURE VS THE STRUCTURE
SUBSETS OF PERSONS IN THE STRUCTURE VS THE STRUCTURE
For some set of reasons, this INCAPACITY seems to be most vividly displayed by the rabid Vatican and affiliated congregations' agents.
That set of reasons would be an interesting study in itself, though an exhausting one. I think two most significant reasons are (A) the typical ATTACHMENT DISORDER childhoods of individuals and (B) an institutional dogma, meme, doctrine, custom, culture wherein the institution is equated with God in thought, ritual, actions, expectations etc.
So, with (A) we have the compulsion from folks with low self-confidence and low-self worth [regardless of their achievements or bank accounts] who have a deep bone marrow, genetic level desperate need to BELONG and to be approved by preferably a GROUP, an authority, a FATHER FIGURE, . . . even better an old large INSTITUTION seen as GRAND and full of elegant !!!!TRADITIONS!!!!
Trouble is, like infants still not quite managing the MOTHER VS ME distinction . . . there's seemingly NO CAPACITY to consider themselves as individuals apart from the INSTITUTION.
So, Mary, such individuals will always COMPULSIVELY react to any negative characterization of ANY ASPECT OF THE INSTITUTION as a personal assault on them as individuals, and indeed as though it were on all the individuals in the institution.
Such stances need to be persistently considered for what they are--manifestations of infantile mentalities, emotionalities, lack of maturing and individuating . . . a lack of a sense of successful competence as an individual such that one can continue to see the world and construe the world as a context in which they operate vs a context in which they are an ENMESHED COG IN THE VAST INSTITUTION or . . . an enmeshed blob as an amoebic appendage on the amorphus mass of the INSTITUTION--unable to see or draw any boundaries between the INDIVIDUAL SELF and the INSTITUTION.
Such folks make horrific marriage partners, coworkers and particularly bosses. They have a lot of trouble with boundaries, with perspective, with context and with nuance. They tend to run roughshod over everyone around them with ever increasing demands and pressures toward perfectionism etc. etc.
There's probably, practically speaking, no likely cure, short of a Damascus Road miracle, for the most rabid Vatican related cliques hereon. The puffing and spewing will continue any time the INSTITUTION is perceived to be even slightly assailed. Objective discourse or genuine dialogue is impossible with such folks. Their emotionality meters tend to be maxed out all the time. THEIR HONOR is triggered any time the INSTITUTION is remotely castigated. Actually, it's their pride and insecurities but they'll insist it's their honor.
Probably the best thing that can be done is to continue to use them to bump threads up and to share useful redemptive info for the lurkers.
It can be briefly fun sport to play with them. Though recently that fun has been greatly tarnished by the outrageous increase in the horrific manifestations of some of the nastier and more vividly sad aspects of their maladies. At some point, it's not remotely fun to suddenly realize one has been playing kickball with someone who has no legs.
I think I’ve seen hereon over the years . . . an increase in the ‘foolishness’ perspective somewhat geometrically . . . as though some folks were
. . . getting . . .
significantly . . . more clueless in spiritual areas.
No.
BLASPHEMY = PROFANE ABUSE OF GOD
We realize that particularly some rabid Vatican related types have this deep rooted incapacity to
DISTINGUISH
between a lot of things in reality.
However, for most of us . . .
There is
GOD VS EVERYTHING ELSE.
“Saints” are part of the class of “EVERYTHING ELSE.”
They are NOT God regardless of how compulsively and UNBIBLICALLY Vatican doctrines, customs, rituals and heresies try to shoehorn them into being GOD.
LOL!
LOL!
I’ll have to assume that rambling screed is an attack on Catholics.
It doesn’t bother me, I’m a Presbyterian when I bother to go to an organized church.
Fact is, LOTS of folks can see through the deception of the latest false prophet. Clarity is not limited to Catholics.
I’ve slammed some Catholics.. Mormons, too. But the thing here is that folks ACROSS THE BOARD reject the nonsensical rantings of this fake prophet.
Even some of us who have been.. shall we say “at odds” for years can unite against this common blasphemy.
Ahhhhhh
this confusion/conflation again . . .
against heresies = against Roman Catholocism.
Amazing incapacities of perception in that camp.
I agree, some people’s faith is so wafer-thin that they are putting faith in an internet prophet!!!!! WOW, it’s really freaky, in fact it’s one of the most bizarre, unbelievable scenarios I’ve ever experienced. Certainly the oddest thing that I’ve ever seen happen at Free Republic. I sometimes do a double take it’s so weird.
Wellllllll . . . if they disagree with his loftiness! LOL.
. . . and possibly worse ones as well.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . .
A new sort of Roman Catholic/Vatican affiliated mirror ritual--PROJECTION PRACTICE session transcript?
. . . not read the C & SB . . .
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of course not.
It is heresy for some cliques to deal in facts. LOL.
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