I haven't seen anything that can show that as a fact in either case.
Hmmmmm
Amazing.
Either . . .
you have
1. Not dug very deeply at all.
2. Not paid very close attention even to the relatively public stuff.
3. Not thought things through to any significant degree at all.
&/or
4. Not gained a sufficient large enough grasp of the whole picture to see the parts the components play.
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Personally, that handwriting has been all over thousands of walls for a very long time . . . at least 30-40 years.
But, hey, at this point, a part of me doesn't give a rip. Believe what you want to.
I've studied it since 1960-62-ish. I've studied globalism since 1965. My IQ is well into the genius levels. I'm well trained and well read. It's just not logical that I might know something about all this that the average person doesn't.
No I won't offer you links.
No I won't offer you proof.
No I won't do your research for you.
What I've learned, I've learned the hard ways. It hasn't been cheap in a list of ways.
It certainly hasn't been cheap to try and warn folks of what I've learned.
When Pres Ike retired and warned in his last speech about the "military industrial complex," what do you think he was talking about? The cabal at the local golf course trying to insure early tee off's?
Maybe he was merely talking about a few local union thugs trying to insure jobs for all their relatives?
Perhaps he was just gassing out the top with no real meaning to his words at all?
I know! Maybe he was warning about McDonald's and Starbucks and telling everyone ahead of time to insure that they were distributed fairly.
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HAVE YOU READ the quotes ref'd in my tagline link?
What's your excuse for not believing what those leaders with all the money, power, connections, positions, organizations, relationships necessary to pull off their plans?
As Ike's right hand man has made clear in repeated testimony, Ike knew he had lost control of the UFO stuff and that the globalists had taken it over lock, stock and barrel . . . and that there was not a thing he could do about it. The feeble few sentences in his farewell speech were the best the mighty General of WWII could pull off.
The retiring head of Lockeed Skunk Works said that IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN ALREADY DO IT. Quite a statement. Just who do you think is in control of all that super technology? Marie Calendar's? I-HOP?
And now Othuga is on the brink of formally surrendering yet more levels of the USA's sovereignty to the more overtly surfacing global government . . . further shredding our Constitution . . . further trampling on every vestige of patriotism available to his Jack Boots and Jack Booted Thugs. Further destroying everything authentically Christian that he can.
So, just where do you think the UFO critters and technologies will be brought to bear in all this?
I know--they'll turn New Zealand into a free playground for the world's citizens . . . kind of a last fling before forced extermination. Or maybe they'll put a year's supply of veggie burgers in everyone's garage. Or maybe they'll give out large flat screen TV's to all. Sweetness, light, Soma and large screen 3D TV's maybe?
Or, maybe they'll help the Good Pope stand against Islam--erradicating that scourage to decency and life from the planet. Lots of evidence that'll be the case, already, right? Or maybe they'll talke all the Muslims to Alpha Centari along with Mecca's dark little rock.
GET REAL.
This Grand END TIMES DECEPTION from hell has not been millenia in the planning just to improve neighborhood kids' hopscotch scores.
Satan has one interest--DEATH AND DESTRUCTION. The global government has one interest--tyrannical control of the world toward worship of satan and as much death and destruction as possible.
BTW, where in the Old Testament does it describe the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . raping women and men?
Where does it describe in the Old Testament the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . forcably taking at the end of the first trimester babies from the womb?
Where does it describe in the OT the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . giving and teaching mankind war technologies?
Where does it describe in the OT the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . lying routinely, chronically?
Where does it describe in the OT, the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . instructing human leaders to destroy the population of the planet down to 200 million?
Where does it describe in the OT, the ANGELS OF THE LORD . . . telling humans that GOD ALMIGHTY is a farce?
Go ahead. Believe what you will. You have bee warned. Your blood is on your own hands.