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To: topcat54; xzins
This is over and against His prescriptive will, that which is plainly given to us in the Bible. An example of that would be that the Christ should be born of a virgin, or that He would be born in Bethlehem, or that the temple would be destroyed and OT sacrifices ended once for all time.

TC, I don't think you realize this but nearly all Old Testament prophecies about Christ were veiled and not plain. They were hidden in references to other people, to shepherds to prophets or to nations or to animals or even crops. If the references were so clear, why is it that nearly all of the biblical scholars of the time (you know, the ones with the advanced degrees) missed it?

The references to Christ's first coming were veiled as are the references to his second coming.

The existence of modern Israel is not part of God’s prescriptive will since nothing in the Bible can be positively and definitely linked to modern Israel.

Well God gathered the descendants of Abraham from every corner of the planet to meet in the same real estate he promised them he would hold in trust forever. That much is pretty clear in the Bible.

50 posted on 10/20/2009 1:32:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; Gamecock; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy; raynearhood; Dr. Eckleburg
TC, I don't think you realize this but nearly all Old Testament prophecies about Christ were veiled and not plain.

True to a certain degree. That is why Christ gave us His apostles, to infallibly interpret to OT passages relating to the Christ. I don’t see any apostles running around today pointing at Israel as anything significant.

The references to Christ's first coming were veiled as are the references to his second coming.

But we are still dependent on the infallible interpretation of the apostles to explain these things to us. The only place we find that infallible interpretation is in the NT. And I do not see anything in the writings of the apostles pointing to the modern secular state of Israel as anything prophetically significant.

Well God gathered the descendants of Abraham from every corner of the planet to meet in the same real estate he promised them he would hold in trust forever. That much is pretty clear in the Bible.

If you are referring to the modern, secular state of Israel, you are begging the question, my FRiend. It’s not clear at all.

55 posted on 10/20/2009 1:43:08 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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