[Dr. Eckleburg]

I see the same attitude in my Messianic brothers. They obey the law not because it provides them with an extra measure of Grace, but because they love God and it is a way for them to show obedience (if not to the LAW, but to the Law Giver).

That's what Roman Catholics say about their seven sacraments and their prayers to dead people and their veneration of Mary and all the other rituals and observances that make them feel more pious in and of themselves.

"Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart." -- 2 Corinthians 5:11-12

Glory in the heart of flesh, not in appearance; in the renewed conscience, not in the renewed ritual.

"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth." -- 2 Corinthians 10:17-18

While there is "no condemnation," Paul is clearly preaching a "better testament." Why worship according to the covenant that has passed away? Seems like a stubborn clinging to what now has been made better by Christ, for Christ, through Christ.

[Petronski]

That's what Roman Catholics say about their seven sacraments and their prayers to dead people and their veneration of Mary and all the other rituals and observances that make them feel more pious in and of themselves.

Wow, more false information about the Catholic Church posted by Dr. Eckleburg. Color me sooooo surprised.