[Mr Rogers]

I’m not a Catholic, as others on this thread can affirm!

This isn’t a Catholic issue, but a simple Christian one - we have been warned of false prophets. I’ve seen the terrible harm they can do, both to churches and individuals. If false prophets were not dangerous, Jesus would not have said, “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.”

Notice they deceive - they come claiming to be sheep, and dressed as such. But they are “ravenous wolves” - and ravenous wolves can do a LOT of damage to a flock of sheep!

So is Jedediah true or false? Based on everything I’ve seen, I have no choice but to conclude false. He and his supporters REFUSE to explain what the rather incoherent words mean, so there is no way to compare his message to scripture. Further, they respond to those who question by calling names and threatening judgment. They create division, and blame anyone who merely asks them to explain how the ‘prophecies’ glorify God?

One would expect a true prophet to be GLAD for the chance to give glory to God, rather than call anyone who asks an unbeliever deserving God’s wrath.

Further, Jedediah often seems to utter prophecies that indicate he thinks he is Jesus Christ. Sorry, but no one who does that is a true prophet.

As I’ve pointed out on another thread, some of those I agree with here are folks I’ve debated at great length - with hundreds of posts. Being very human, and having a sinful hot temper, I’ve sometimes thought unkind thoughts of them. Being ex-military with nearly 2500 hours of fighter flight time, I’ve sometimes used rude words - my dogs could testify against me! But that is MY sin, and sometimes God has to deal with MY sin before I can post again.

That said, once God has rebuked me for my temper, I’ve always been able to come back and try to explain again. The people I’ve argued with are folks that God came to earth and died for - they deserve the very best explanation I can give. They aren’t pigs, or swine, or folks for me to call God’s wrath down on...far from it!

I’m no more likely to convince MarkBsnr or Petronski or others to become Baptist than they are to convince me to become Catholic. And given some of the ‘toothy grin Baptist churches’ I’ve seen, that may not be an entirely bad thing...although doctrinally, of course, the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith is one of the finest expressions of...well, we’ll save that for another thread!

But folks reading can see what both sides believe and decide how God wants them to respond. And with time, God is teaching me just enough humility (did I mention pride is my other favorite sin?) to grant Him the right to deal with each of us according to His will and His time.

But Jedediah and Quix seem to skip the whole ‘explain what you believe’ thing and go straight to condemnation. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve asked for an explanation, and there has been NONE. Condemnation? Yep. Explanation? Nope.

So I see no choice but to call Jedediah a false prophet.

And false prophets don’t merit respect.

And I’ve pinged him, so he can defend his views if he wishes - which would be a first!

[Quix]

I'm so thankful about

how utterly

WRONG

you are.

Last evening, on the phone, Jedediah, rather out of the blue, ministered to me about a very troublesome situation, in Asia, 12 years ago--that he could have had absolutely NO awareness of, apart from God's Holy Spirit.

It was beautiful, redemptive and precisely accurate to the realities invovled.

Wonderful fruit from a wonderful, Biblical anointing.

Of course, those not interested in THE TRUTH, determined to construe the world in THEIR image . . . are not likely to avail themselves of such ministry. Nor is God routinely likely to oblige them, if they do.

[Quix]

I’ve explained the Biblical exhortation God gave some of His prophets

TO AVOID DEFENDING THEMSELVES.

I’ve explained that it’s a fairly broad based teaching that

THAT IS THE PROPER STANCE for servants of God, particularly prophets to take . . .

TO TRUST AND DEPEND ON GOD TO BE THEIR DEFENSE

and to avoid getting caught up in such.

You persist in railing against that very Biblical stance.

That’s soooooooooooooooooooooooooo impressive.

[Judith Anne]

Well said.

[sitetest]

Dear Mr Rogers,

That is a really good post, Mr Rogers. It shines with the theological virtue of supernatural charity.

I will endeavor to emulate some of what you wrote.

sitetest

[wagglebee]

Thanks for this post! It was fantastic and I agree completely.

[Jedediah]

Isaiah prophecied along with Jeremiah in the first person tense