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The Soon Coming Climax Proof The Bible Is True
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Posted on 10/17/2009 9:12:18 AM PDT by kindred

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To: freedom9
One greater than Jesus? Well, I'm afraid I have to vehemently disagree with you on that.

Anyway, can you explain the apparent contradiction between your belief that humans are actually angels, and the following Scriptures? By the way, here is the Scripture you posted, in context:

Luke 20:34-36

Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,

but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;

for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Now that what Jesus said is in it's proper context and can be properly understood, we can move on.

Angels are supernatural beings distinctly separate from the race of man:

Hebrews 1: 13, 14:

But to which of the angels has He ever said, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET"?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?

1 Corinthians 6:2,3

Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?

Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?

1 Corinthians 15:39-40

All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish.

There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.

Angels were created prior to the creation of man:

Job 38:4-7

Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?

Tell Me, if you have understanding,

Who set its measurements? Since you know.

Or who stretched the line on it?

On what were its bases sunk?

Or who laid its cornerstone,

When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Why were angels created?

I. For ministry to God (worship):

II. For ministry to man (the "heirs of salvation"):

Specific duties have been assigned to angels:

Angels minister to the physical needs of God's people.

I. They provide protection and deliverance from danger.

II. Angels can impart physical strength to man in his time of need.

I can go on if you like, but in the interest of time I'll stop here.

Please provide the supporting Scriptures for your assertion that human beings are actually angels.

Thanks.

101 posted on 10/18/2009 4:54:00 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
"One greater than Jesus? Well, I'm afraid I have to vehemently disagree with you on that.

I wasn't talking about me. I was thinking that perhaps you considered yourself more knowledgeable and authoritative than Christ on the subject of heaven and angels.

It was postulated that there were seven men and one woman and that each had her in succession as the previous perished.

The question was, which should she belong of the seven.

The answer was...

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

You can argue yourself silly but you're not going to change the scripture.

But I'll give you this to consider;

Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Isa 28:20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

Those two passages taken together gives insight on the existential nature of being.

(I don't count anything scriptural after the four gospels.)

I'm out of here

102 posted on 10/18/2009 6:03:49 AM PDT by freedom9 (. . . on the other hand, Truth is supremely formidable.)
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To: freedom9
I wasn't talking about me. I was thinking that perhaps you considered yourself more knowledgeable and authoritative than Christ on the subject of heaven and angels

I know what you meant, and again, I disagree with you. .

You can argue yourself silly but you're not going to change the scripture.

LOL. Was I arguing? I don't believe I was. Posting actual Scripture which clearly states that angels and humans are two distinctly separate creations with two distinctly different purposes in God's universe is not "arguing".

(I don't count anything scriptural after the four gospels.)

Oh dear. So then God was not being truthful with us when He said:

2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Now who is setting himself up above God? What a dangerous position to be in.

Since you're out of here, I won't look forward to the posts of supporting Scripture which tells us that angels and humans are one and the same.

Thanks.

103 posted on 10/18/2009 6:31:05 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

It’s humorous.

My assumption is that it means some sort of involved multi-pointed intense rant or argument???

A curious but humorous idea, in any case.

I’ve long had a fantasy about injecting some sort of colloquialism into the language. Never imagined my name would be it. LOL.

What would you imagine it might mean?


104 posted on 10/18/2009 7:28:40 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: freedom9; GiovannaNicoletta
SHEESH.

CLEARLY . . . IN CONTEXT . . .

"LIKE THE ANGELS"

IN TERMS OF

MARRYING,
GIVEN IN MARRIAGE,

SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS!

Sheesh.

Talk about
taking a phrase
and
jumping off a cliff
with it!


105 posted on 10/18/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: freedom9; GiovannaNicoletta

OH?
?REALLY?
Is this some
LDS OR JW
OR
????
off the wall
teaching?
It's a new one
to me.

106 posted on 10/18/2009 7:40:22 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

INDEED.

GREAT WORK, HERE.


107 posted on 10/18/2009 7:44:40 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: meowmeow

Thanks for the very clever phrase you just coined,

‘he went all Quix on me’

and my my my how we all know what you mean !!!!!!

LOL.

Thanks again.


108 posted on 10/18/2009 4:22:08 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Quix; meowmeow

Welllllllllllllllllll ... Quix ... how to put this?

It’s just that, um, you, um, sorta, um, have, like, you know, 40 or 50 or 60 points you make to each, say two or three points a person voices to you.

We know you’re just being you.

And that’s a good thing.

Your brain is superwired with lists and facts and expressions and loyalties and talents and brilliance and stuff

...

and so, most of the rest of us love you as you are and are glad to know you and are better for reading what you write.


109 posted on 10/18/2009 4:28:17 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Joya

THANKS FOR YOUR TOUCHINGLY KIND AFFIRMATION.

You cheat. You have to put up with me face to face! LOL.


110 posted on 10/18/2009 5:09:14 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: kindred
More Bible prophecy info:

Revelation 18

WHERE IS BABYLON THE GREAT?

BABYLON THE GREAT

111 posted on 10/19/2009 4:15:56 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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