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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Actually, it is Biblical. She was foretold. She initiated Christ’s first miracle, the first sign of His mission. He said, “Behold your mother.” She was in the room with all the men when the Holy Spirit came. I think that’s pretty huge. Why did the Holy Spirit want her there?

Now add in all the miracles of Fatima and Lourdes. These are proven medical miracles that no one refutes. They have been thoroughly examined by skeptics of every faith. So she does heal. Her messages during those apparitions are all about longing for us, waiting for us, wanting us to know her Son, asking us to pray to know her Son better.

I wasn’t sending you a commercial message about Mary. I was telling you about her; about how most Catholics see her.

Not everything is Biblical. The New Testament states that a book of everything that Christ said and did would fill a room. Many of the things we know about Christ are from that wealth of knowledge that wasn’t written down, but was known, by the Apostles.


38 posted on 10/16/2009 6:42:57 PM PDT by Melian ("frequently in error, rarely in doubt")
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To: Melian

“Actually, it is Biblical. She was foretold. She initiated Christ’s first miracle, the first sign of His mission. He said, “Behold your mother.” She was in the room with all the men when the Holy Spirit came. I think that’s pretty huge. Why did the Holy Spirit want her there?”

I agree with all that - but that doesn’t prove any of the
claims you made.

“Now add in all the miracles of Fatima and Lourdes.”

You, and others ASSUME they were miracles from Mary.

“These are proven medical miracles that no one refutes. They have been thoroughly examined by skeptics of every faith.”

You assume they are more than psychosomatic healing.

“So she does heal.”

You assume it was Mary who healed.

“Her messages during those apparitions are all about longing for us, waiting for us, wanting us to know her Son, asking us to pray to know her Son better.”

You assume the messages were from Mary.

“I wasn’t sending you a commercial message about Mary. I was telling you about her; about how most Catholics see her.”

Thank you for the clarification, but you were doing more
than telling me what you thought. You were exhorting me
to enter into more that God Himself says about our lady.

“Not everything is Biblical”

! In this case, we could rephrase that as, “nothing here
is Biblical.”

“The New Testament states that a book of everything that Christ said and did would fill a room.”

Yet, we have everything He chose to record for the Church.
The fact that not everything was recorded doesn’t mean
that you can just make it up and it carries equal weight
to what God inspired the writers of the Scriptures to record.

“Many of the things we know about Christ are from that wealth of knowledge that wasn’t written down, but was known, by the Apostles.”

You assume these things are true.

In reality, there is much that was not the practice of
the first and second second century Church that was
added as doctrine after that. It is believed today as it
it were always there. It was not.

Best,
ampu


45 posted on 10/18/2009 6:35:12 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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