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To: Unam Sanctam

Yep.
But the problem is that a lot of Catholics don’t accept this teaching.
The doctrine unfortunately is often given short shrift in our modernist parishes. The emphasis is placed on Eucharist as a shared meal.
Trent and the Lateran councils are so pre-Vatican II (code for irrelevant) to these folks.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 10:10:11 PM PDT by rogator
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To: rogator
But the problem is that a lot of Catholics don’t accept this teaching.

That would be like saying, I am a vegetarian but I eat meat. One can't be a Catholic and not believe this Dogma. Every Sunday it is made clear, every time.

Its an easy charge to make, but it is clearly a false charge. Even Cardinal Mahoney, who can be held as a bastion of truth only if you assume he is always wrong, states the Dogma clearly and that it is required of all Catholics.

There are many failings in the Church in 2009, but this is not one of them. I would say the mistakes that cause the most issues in Catholic Parishes are the casual nature of American culture, the enforced destruction of authority, or the suppression of many traditional sacramental practices.

I am not even going to address why people would talk in loud voices in Church, come in 15 minutes late every week, or allow children to wander the pews without correction.

As far as the article, I have stated this before. Until the SSPX states clearly that the Pope is able to make liturgical changes at will and that a council of the Church is able to function under the same Pope as supreme legislator, there will be no other discussion possible. Being dilatory in regards to the talks harms the SSPX and not the rest of the Church.

I was pleased Benedict took the steps that he did, not it is up to the SSPX to show the same good faith. Having more old Missal masses is never a bad thing.
10 posted on 10/14/2009 5:31:30 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: rogator; Unam Sanctam; nickcarraway
But the problem is that a lot of Catholics don’t accept this teaching.

Their ignorance or lack of acceptance does not alter the teaching. Transubstantiation is a dogma of faith. In similar manner, repositioning the Tabernacle to a side altar or even a back room does not change or remove the fact that Jesus remains truly present in the Eucharist. This is also true of the priest, who is a sinner. Recall the words of our Lord to St. Faustina. Speaking on the topic of Confession, He said:

My daughter, just as you prepare in My presence, so also you make your confession before Me. The person of the priest is, for Me, only a screen. Never analyse what sort of a priest it is that I am making use of; open your soul in confession as you would to Me, and I will fill it with My light. (1725)

Never analyse what sort of a priest it is that I am making use of ... these words are key to understanding how our Lord works through even the most sinful priest to impart His graces on us. On the topic of Holy Communion, He said:

I desire to unite Myself to human souls, Know, My daughter, that when I come to a human heart in Holy Communion, My hands are full of all kinds of graces which I want to give to the soul. But souls do not even pay any attention to Me; they leave Me to Myself and busy themselves with other things...They treat Me as a dead object. (1385)

It is your responsibility to approach our Lord in faith and not be concerned with your neighbors or analyze the priest.

11 posted on 10/14/2009 5:40:25 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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