>>> Do you expect the Catholic Church to denounce true goodness done by certain INDIVIDUALS who work within the united nations or any organization and condemn their work in following our Lord as a waste of time because it does not conform to capitalism? <<<
Did you not read the point I made about businessmen and politicians I made in my last post? Why do you persist in pretending we disagree about good being done by individuals?
Do you not think that that there is a difference between individuals and institutions? BXVI does: individuals are moral persons, capable of being good or evil, while Institutions or bundles of institutions — “social instruments” — like globalization are said to be basically MORALLY NEUTRAL (”a priori...neither good nor bad”; _CiV_, Section 42). This seems to be tantamount to claiming that institutions, although the creation in great part by men, are without the taint of Sin. Which would be an incredible argument, and one which I do not agree with.
My response to the assertion of the moral neutrality of institutions is to say “Really?”
>>> We pray for the goodness of moral individuals to step up and change errors from within corrupt systems like many Saints and Martyrs have done. <<<
Wouldn’t the MORAL or GOOD response of an individual who had to interact with an institution like the COMINTERN or GPU or Gestapo be to destroy it? From the outside? What would it mean for a good RC to “step up and change errors from WITHIN corrupt systems” if that corrupt system is something like Bolshevik Communism?
What is the proper response of good Christians to institutions like International Communism or German National Socialism? To work for internal change and reform from within, or to take up arms against from without? What would a reformed GPU or Stasi or Gestapo look like?
>>> True love changes hearts and can move mountains ,dear friend.
Once you stop believing that you have no faith in Christ! <<<
Please show me where the Church of Rome has advocated that RCs should change International Communism and/or German national Socialism “from within.” I’ll wait. I had thought that the Church of Rome’s position was that the downfall — not inner reform — of Soviet Communism and German National Socialism were GOOD things. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
VERY WELL PUT.
Of course, the TRUTH seems to be incomprehensible to various rabid cliques hereon.
“”Do you not think that that there is a difference between individuals and institutions? BXVI does: individuals are moral persons, capable of being good or evil, while Institutions or bundles of institutions — “social instruments” — like globalization are said to be basically MORALLY NEUTRAL (”a priori...neither good nor bad”; _CiV_, Section 42).This seems to be tantamount to claiming that institutions, although the creation in great part by men, are without the taint of Sin.””
Why did you leave out the next line from CIV that reads.... a priori...neither good nor bad IT WILL BE WHAT PEOPLE MAKE OF IT” ? This means an institution is neutral until individuals make it into something with an agenda that can be either good or bad.
I don’t see why you would find that hard to understand?
“”Wouldn’t the MORAL or GOOD response of an individual who had to interact with an institution like the COMINTERN or GPU or Gestapo be to destroy it? From the outside? What would it mean for a good RC to “step up and change errors from WITHIN corrupt systems” if that corrupt system is something like Bolshevik Communism?””
You don’t seem to understand that sometimes people are caught in various systems by force are enslaved by it so they can only fight against it from within since they are enslaved by the system even though they disagree with it.Thus, we can and should step up and fight to break corrupt systems from within.
If this so-called NWO ever takes place we will be enslaved by it and it will need to be destroyed from within
Pope Benedict XVI is against immoral NWO-I suggest you read the following....
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jul/09070812.html
Since long before his papacy, Joseph Ratzinger has vigorously fought the United Nations’ vision of a ‘New World Order’. As early as 1997, and repeated subsequently, Ratzinger took public aim at such a vision, noting that the philosophy coming from UN conferences and the Millennium Summit “proposes strategies to reduce the number of guests at the table of humanity, so that the presumed happiness [we] have attained will not be affected.”
“At the base of this New World Order”, he said is the ideology of “women’s empowerment,” which erroneously sees “the principal obstacles to [a woman’s] fulfillment [as] the family and maternity.” The then-cardinal advised that “at this stage of the development of the new image of the new world, Christians - and not just them but in any case they even more than others - have the duty to protest.”
Benedict XVI in fact repeats those criticisms in the new encyclical. In Caritas in Veritate, the Pope slams “practices of demographic control, on the part of governments that often promote contraception and even go so far as to impose abortion.” He also denounces international economic bodies such as the IMF and World Bank (without specifically naming them) for their lending practices which tie aid to so-called ‘family planning.’ “There is reason to suspect that development aid is sometimes linked to specific health-care policies which de facto involve the imposition of strong birth control measures,” says the encyclical.