Any clear minded RC must see that the proof is in the pudding and this pudding that you brought up is really, really rotten. WHERE IS THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE??????? THE PROVERBIAL BUCK STOPS WITH HIM!!!!!!! IF THE POPE DOESN'T DISCIPLINE THESE PEOPLE HE IS NEGLIGENT!!!!!! HE IS NOT THE INFALLIBLE VICAR OF CHRIST ON EARTH!!!!!
If a equals b and b equals c than a equals c! You cannot believe the Pope is infallible if he does not execute his office as he is suppose to. He is the disciplinary head of all the RCC and is responsible to God according to it's own doctrines for what goes on in it. Granted he may not be aware of every little thing that goes on in it but he must be aware of the large things such as the fact that leaders in The USA who are Catholic are advocating and voting for every evil thing. If he does not make a public example of disciplining them then he is negligent. There can be no denying this unless one puts blinders on the eyes of one's soul.
How much error will RCs accept before they can finally see that all is not right with The Pope and that he most certainly isn't infallible? When will RCs stop bending so far over backwards to deny what is undeniable and stop making up myriads of excuses for the inexcusable that is allowed in the RCC?
I really do wonder what many RCs think the responsibility of their Pope is suppose to be. If the Pope, is derelict of his responsibility to make sure that proper discipline is carried out in the RCC, how then can the average RC be expected to distinguish between what is right and wrong?
The First Vatican Council clearly states:
If anyone thus speaks, that the Roman Pontiff has only the office of inspection or direction, but not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the universal Church, not only in things which pertain to faith and morals, but also in those which pertain to the discipline and government of the Church spread over the whole world; or, that he possesses only the more important parts, but not the whole plenitude of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate, or over the churches altogether and individually, and over the pastors and the faithful altogether and individually: let him be anathema.
but but but
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if if if
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except when except when except when
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compassion for this compassion for that
temporal power
ecclesiastical power
pontifical power
blathering power
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Actually, the Pope doesn’t have the kind of ecclesiastical power he’s asserted to have. That train left the station a long time ago if he ever had it from the beginning of 300-400 AD. I think the train left the station long before the first Pope around then.
Shoot the train has left the station in most Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. And those are the only places or agencies I’ve ever
OBSERVED AND EXPERIENCED THE MANIFEST PRESENCE AND POWER OF GOD.
The rest are, at best, good blatherers.
What do you think the responsibility of the Pope is? What legal, administrative, and disciplinary powers do you believe him to have? What is the role of the College of Cardinals in establishing Church doctrine and dogma? How does the Bishop of Rome differ from any other Bishop of the Church? Are you aware that the term "RC" is terribly offensive to many?