Vatican Backs Obama's Global Agenda

ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com ^ | October 13, 2009 | Cliff Kincaid

[editor-surveyor]

Liberal and conservative Catholics alike would prefer not to discuss how the Catholic Church, here and abroad, functions like a liberal/left-wing political lobby.

Some pro-life Catholics are acting shocked that the Vatican warmly greeted the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, who is pro-abortion. They don't seem to understand that the Vatican and Obama agree on most major international issues.

This is the untold story-how Obama and the Vatican accept major ingredients of what has been called a New World Order.

Another untold story is how, despite a disagreement over abortion, the U.S. Catholic Bishops and the Obama Administration agree on major aspects of so-called health care reform.

[Quix]

I can always tell when my posts are

sooooooooooooooooo full of chaff and air-gel

. . . the foaming at the fingers responses on the part of some RC’s and REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

becomes exceedingly shrill and pointed when my posts are too worthless to bother with.

[trisham]

Biting my tongue here.

[editor-surveyor]

Do you agree with a single one of the quotes that you posted?

[Natural Law]

"Do you agree with a single one of the quotes that you posted?"

Yup

[Quix]

Wellllllllllllll

clear statements in two encyclicals now . . .

have supported globalism fairly emphatically.

Sounds like they mean it, to me.

[Campion]

becomes exceedingly shrill

Pot ... kettle ... black.

[Natural Law]

"have supported globalism fairly emphatically have supported globalism fairly emphatically"

You must be reading a different Caritas in Veritate than the one authored by the Roman Catholic Church or you are projecting content not actually there. The preamble clearly states:

"The Church does not have technical solutions to offer and does not claim “to interfere in any way in the politics of States.” She does, however, have a mission of truth to accomplish, in every time and circumstance, for a society that is attuned to man, to his dignity, to his vocation. Without truth, it is easy to fall into an empiricist and skeptical view of life, incapable of rising to the level of praxis because of a lack of interest in grasping the values — sometimes even the meanings — with which to judge and direct it. Fidelity to man requires fidelity to the truth, which alone is the guarantee of freedom (cf. Jn 8:32) and of the possibility of integral human development.

[wmfights]

Does a bouquet of flowers sent by your brother-in-law to your hospital room erase the beating that you took from his brother/your husband the night before?

LOL, I'm going to steal that!

[Uri’el-2012]

Another untold story is how, despite a disagreement over abortion, the U.S. Catholic Bishops and the Obama Administration agree on major aspects of so-called health care reform.

So redistribution of wealth is ok with the Vatican.

Ignoring the eighth of YHvH's Commandments.

NAsbU Deuteronomy 5:19 'You shall not steal.

Repeated by Yah'shua:

NAsbU Matthew 19:18 Then he said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said,
"YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY;
YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS;

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Natural Law]

"So redistribution of wealth is ok with the Vatican."

Since you didn't end that with a question mark, and I surely don't want to be accused of mind reading, I take that as an allegation. It is also false. If you care to defend it perhaps you could cite your sources.

[editor-surveyor]

Perhaps you’d like to offer proof of your allegation that it is false. (this should be good!)

[big'ol_freeper]

It never ends.

[trisham]

And I fear that it never will.

[Natural Law]

"Perhaps you’d like to offer proof of your allegation that it is false. (this should be good!)"

As unprecedented as it is to expect one to prove the negative, when dealing with the prejudiced and intellectually lazy one must go the extra mile:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651207_gaudium-et-spes_en.html

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_letters/documents/hf_p-vi_apl_19710514_octogesima-adveniens_en.html

http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0214/__P6.HTM

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html#In friendly dialogue with all branches of knowledge

[Quix]

Naw . . .

I haven’t approached the outskirts, the furthest moon of the planet shrill, yet.

Folks are keenly aware of it when I get shrill.

[Quix]

Nope.

Just subtracing out the double speak.

[Quix]

Indeed.

[Quix]

Naw . . .

they don’t tend to follow through successfully enough or thoroughly enough for it to get REAL interesting.

[Natural Law]

"Just subtracing out the double speak."

If you are as good at critical reading as you would like us to believe perhaps you could share with us a couple of examples of the so-called double speak. It would go a long way to restoring your credibility and potentially prove enlightening.

Maybe you could begin by educating us what "subtracing" means.

[Quix]

IIRC, I did that ad nauseum on that thread months ago.

No interest in refresher courses.