Posted on 10/13/2009 12:56:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
Liberal and conservative Catholics alike would prefer not to discuss how the Catholic Church, here and abroad, functions like a liberal/left-wing political lobby.
Some pro-life Catholics are acting shocked that the Vatican warmly greeted the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama, who is pro-abortion. They don't seem to understand that the Vatican and Obama agree on most major international issues.
This is the untold story-how Obama and the Vatican accept major ingredients of what has been called a New World Order.
Another untold story is how, despite a disagreement over abortion, the U.S. Catholic Bishops and the Obama Administration agree on major aspects of so-called health care reform.
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Is ok, we read your mind ;o)
Definitely a direct reference to secular humanism therein!
Actually, despite what you have described as my "satanic" nature, I almost never drink hard liquor, and drink beer or wine only infrequently. On the few occasions when I enter a liquor store, it is usually to buy someone a gift.
That is not surprising.
This is entirely the same sort of ethno-cultural slur about the rural American heartland that liberals make so often.
You may be mad at somebody, and maybe with good reason, but that was uncalled for.
I don’t want to really get into this snarl, but I just wanted to say that I have never before heard that the initials “RC” are considered an anti-Catholic slur. As a matter of fact, I have heard from evangelical missionaries that sometimes the people they are “witnessing” to will identify themselves as “RC” to get them to stop.
No, this is entirely the same sort of ethno-cultural slur about "RCs" that the rural American heartland makes so often. Unless you made a similar admonishment to the originator of post #179 you are being a hypocrite.
Well I guess that settles it then. Since you personally have never been insulted by it must mean it doesn't exist.
"I have heard from evangelical missionaries that sometimes the people they are “witnessing” to will identify themselves as “RC” to get them to stop."
How ironic that the irony of a flippant, tounge-in-cheek, inside joke, was lost on them. Its kind of like black people referring to themselves with the "N" word.
In the context of Cliff Kincaid's other anti-Catholic writings and the absence of any evidence cited, this begs the question; Is Kincaid anti-practicing Catholic, anti-nonpracticing Catholic or simply anti-Vatican?
Or is he simply pro Bible?
He hits other apostate practices too.
You are the first person that I have encountered that takes that inferance.
The Vatican Press Office does not represent the official postion of the Vatican?
Cite?
" I almost never drink hard liquor, and drink beer or wine only infrequently."
Then you and I are alike on that, but almost never isn't never. So your joke was a bit hypocritical, was it not?
Now you no longer have the excuse of ignorance.
In that case he would be pro-Catholic and Pro-Vatican since they are the editors and publishers of the compendium of works you call the Bible.
Many Catholics voted for obummer. Hell Notre Dame had him there to speak....arrested any catholics who protested. What planet are you living on.
Mine isn’t. In fact it was suggested that we take care not to become an Esau nation—not a reference to Islam but an explicit suggestion not to sell our birthright for a dish of pottage.
Cite?
Here (post #129)
So your joke was a bit hypocritical, was it not?
It's a very well known, old, and funny joke. Like many similar jokes it exaggerates a stereotype that is sometimes, but not always accurate. It would be hypocritical if I cared whether I was recognized on my very infrequent visits to the liquor store, which I don't.
There was an excellent speech given by Archbishop Charles Chaput in which he said:
"But when we hear that 54 percent of American Catholics voted for President Obama last November, and that this somehow shows a sea change in their social thinking, we can reasonably ask: How many of them practice their faith on a regular basis? And when we do that, we learn that most practicing Catholics actually voted for Senator McCain. Of course, that doesn't really tell us whether anyone voted for either candidate for the right reasons. Nobody can do a survey of the secret places of the human heart. But it does tell us that numbers can be used to prove just about anything. We won't be judged on our knowledge of poll data. We'll be judged on whether we proved it by our actions when we said "I am a Catholic, and Jesus Christ is Lord."
You can find the full text of his speech at the following link:
http://www.zenit.org/article-25192?l=english
“your satanic world view” is not the same as satanic nature, nor was it on this thread.
You know the rules here.
And the way that you injected the ‘joke’ was indeed hypocritical.
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