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Vatican Backs Obama's Global Agenda
ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com ^ | October 13, 2009 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 10/13/2009 12:56:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor

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To: Poe White Trash
....I’d say that anyone who claims that _Caritas_ is non-political or that it doesn’t take a POSITIVE interest in a Roman Catholic-based “development” of globalism is someone who has not read the encyclical, or someone who is not able to read it with comprehension, or is purposefully lying.

An excellent summation, Poe. And for the record, I've read the encyclical.

121 posted on 10/14/2009 6:38:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: IbJensen
Thank God there are traditional Catholic chapels and churches throughout the United States, Canada and the world. They believe that everything that happened in the church subsequent to Vatican II was heresy. More and more and coming to the conclusion that is exactly what the Vatican and the Pope represents.

Are you a sedevacantist?

122 posted on 10/14/2009 6:43:03 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: IbJensen
...as you so inappropriately termed me...

I referred to you specifically in that way in my post?

My advice to you is simple: read it again!

123 posted on 10/14/2009 6:44:23 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Poe White Trash
...someone who has not read the encyclical, or someone who is not able to read it with comprehension, or is purposefully lying.

So in your opinion, those who disagree with you on this point are ignorant, stupid or lying.

LOL . . . Riiiiight.

124 posted on 10/14/2009 6:45:42 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: IbJensen
They believe that everything that happened in the church subsequent to Vatican II was heresy.

Do you include yourself in this group? Does this describe your beliefs?

125 posted on 10/14/2009 6:46:43 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Poe White Trash

INDEED.

THANKS TONS.

One begins to think that some folks are reading the encyclical printed on hemp.


126 posted on 10/14/2009 7:11:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Bellflower

but but but

but but but

if if if

therefore therefore therefore

except when except when except when

extenuating this’s

extenuating that’s

compassion for this compassion for that

temporal power

ecclesiastical power

pontifical power

blathering power

. . .

. . .

. . .

Actually, the Pope doesn’t have the kind of ecclesiastical power he’s asserted to have. That train left the station a long time ago if he ever had it from the beginning of 300-400 AD. I think the train left the station long before the first Pope around then.

Shoot the train has left the station in most Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. And those are the only places or agencies I’ve ever

OBSERVED AND EXPERIENCED THE MANIFEST PRESENCE AND POWER OF GOD.

The rest are, at best, good blatherers.


127 posted on 10/14/2009 7:15:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

PRAISE GOD FOR THINKING, PERCEPTIVE ROMAN CATHOLICS.

GOD BE WITH YOU.


128 posted on 10/14/2009 7:16:40 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

To be in difficulty with our government is one thing, but to have to wade through a document issued by the head of my Church and larded with newspeak is quite another.


Actually, kind of makes my skin crawl.


129 posted on 10/14/2009 7:17:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

INDEED.


130 posted on 10/14/2009 7:18:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski

I believe the old adage “throwing out the baby with the bathwater” fits what Vatican II wrought.


131 posted on 10/14/2009 7:18:31 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Petronski; Marysecretary; Joya

In

la la land

works.


132 posted on 10/14/2009 7:19:41 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

What an odd detail to leave out of your Catholic credentials as listed in 119.


133 posted on 10/14/2009 7:20:19 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix

For the three of you?

What a revealing admission.


134 posted on 10/14/2009 7:20:40 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Lorica
I kept hoping that John Paul's replacement would address the numerous errors inherent in Vatican II, but I was wrong.

I believe that those popes succeeding Pius XII will owe their maker an explanation as to why they let the opportunity first to never hold such a schismatic gathering in the first place and then, failing that, continuing the heresies.

I believe by definition and taking into consideration what' happened to the Roman Catholic Church subsequent to that infamous event I am a sedevacantist.

Unfortunately, today, awaiting a reversal in the inherent errors of Vatican II there are a lot of sedevacantists. Fortunately, many of them are properly ordained priests.

135 posted on 10/14/2009 7:25:15 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Petronski

No more odd that your confusing post to me.


136 posted on 10/14/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Petronski

Ahhhhhhhhh not managing Martin Buber very well this morning, I see.


137 posted on 10/14/2009 7:45:38 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

One learns to never expect clarity out of a muddy pool in the barnyard.


138 posted on 10/14/2009 7:46:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Once again you describe yourself quite aptly.


139 posted on 10/14/2009 7:47:29 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: IbJensen
No more odd that your confusing post to me.

Perhaps you were confused, but the post itself is not inherently confusing.

140 posted on 10/14/2009 7:48:01 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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