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I think the internal debate (YEC vs OEC, geo vs heliocentrists, Flood vs. Not really a worldwide flood, etc) is great. It doesn't happen enough... and I wish this thread would really delve into it.

So, are you going to answer the question of *Why*?

You are an evolutionist. Everyone knows where you stand.

Why do you consider it so great that there is an internal debate between YEC and OEC?

Why do you think that it doesn't happen enough?

Why do you wish this thread would really delve into it?

What do you hope to gain from a debate like that considering your evolutionist views?

Are you hoping to learn something?

So, are you going to answer the question of *Why*?

Sure.

You are an evolutionist. Everyone knows where you stand.

For the record, I don't introduce myself as such at parties. Just as you don't introduce yourself as a creationist. "Evolutionist" is not a label. I do hold a biology degree and my resume does note that. It does not, however, identify me as an "evolutionist."

Why do you consider it so great that there is an internal debate between YEC and OEC?

Of course you picture me snickering in my ivory tower at the know-nothings battling it out. And of course you'd be wrong. It's very interesting to me... I grew up in a strong Christian family and have always been interested in inter-denominational debate. The endless arguing over "true" Christians IS interesting - no matter where one stands on that debate. I just happen to be on the outside looking in.

Why do you think that it doesn't happen enough?

Because - on FR - it doesn't. You know that over the years I've been wishing creationists would - at least ONCE - agree that some source material has been quote-mined unfairly or admit that a jailed tax-cheat with a degree from a diploma mill may not be the best person to learn that humans and dinosaurs lived in harmony. Or that those who accept heliocentrism would perhaps note to the geocentrists that their ideas on the solar system are wrong, etc. It just never happens.

It's like the creationists have an unspoken bond that "We believe God created everything and no matter how wrong you may be about a particular part of that creation, it's okay with me because of the greater good." I have an issue with that. If a fellow "evolutionist" provides incorrect information, I will point that out. Without hesitation. That's the honesty and integrity of science. For something supposedly much more honest (Christianity), I wish the creationists would step up to the plate more often. (It has happened a bit on this thread.)

No one has a problem doing so on other FR topics. We all do it all the time as the need arises. So why the silence on this issue. I'm sorry, it IS interesting.

Why do you wish this thread would really delve into it?

See above.

What do you hope to gain from a debate like that considering your evolutionist views? Are you hoping to learn something?

I'm always hoping to learn something. I live my life with that hope. I've been waiting for years now for an actual honest-to-goodness "Intelligent Design" proponent to speak up. GGG posts plenty of ID articles (which he has noted he does not necessarily agree with to a very large degree) but all I see are creationists and evolutionists. Now with this thread, OneVike was hoping for a YEC vs. OEC discussion. And like I said, it has come about a bit, which is cool.