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To: topcat54

“Since the 1970’s stunning new data has been surfacing about the pretribulation rapture’s long-covered-up beginnings in the 1800’s.”

wrong for so many reasons, but let’s assume it completely started in the 1800’s or even 1900’s.

For me, the issue is simply whether something is true, based on the Word of God. Is it there? Not how long people have recognized it was there.

I find a pretribulation meeting with Christ and “those of us who are alive and remain” in Thessalonians. Good enough for me. I wasn’t alive anytime before the 1900’s anyway...

The Reformation did a good job recovering the Gospel. It couldn’t do everything at once - nor did it.

In my experience, it is the wackos who deny the Church and claim it is simply Israel that dredge up this kind of nonsense article. They will not even admit to the New Testament being written to instruct the Church.

But, to each their own. I don’t want to invest my life digging through their trash to try to correct them. And anyway, they are too busy trying to carry out Christian Reconstructionism (see Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism) and stone adulterers with Gary North to accept feedback.

I wish them well.

ampu


14 posted on 10/05/2009 2:19:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

INDEED.

Well put.


16 posted on 10/05/2009 2:22:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
wrong for so many reasons, but let’s assume it completely started in the 1800’s or even 1900’s.

It did. There is textual no evidence of a pre-trib rapture in the Bible. Even some dispensationalists have admitted as much.

I find a pretribulation meeting with Christ and “those of us who are alive and remain” in Thessalonians.

If that is all it takes, then I can find transformationalism in there as well. But of course, objectively speaking, there is no pre-trib rapture in 1 Thess 4 (or any place else). If you have to fishing for it if it’s required by your system. Most Christians have a system that does not require a dualistic view of the second coming.

20 posted on 10/05/2009 5:18:20 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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