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To: Soothesayer9
" I think one could sufficiently write up a convincing dissertation (or thesis) proving that God withholds certain elements of “common sense” from those in the upper echelon of science (such as the above)..and grants it to the poor. " ( For it is written, so shall it be done )

For the natural man ( heathen, worldly , un saved ) can not understand, comprehend, perceive nor can ever perceive or understand the things of the spirit of God for they are contrary to his thinking and understanding.
It is only then, once a un regenerate man becomes " BORN AGAIN " of the spirit, and being filled with the spirit of God can he only then understand the things of the spirit of God.

I Corinthians chapter 1 : verses 18 - 31

18. For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."

20. Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar?
Where is the philosopher of this age?
Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

21. For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
22. Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom,
23. but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
24. but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
25. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.

26. Brothers, think of what you were when you were called.
Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.
27. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
28. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are,
29. so that no one may boast before him.
30. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
31. Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."



(King James Version)
1 Corinthians 2

1. And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5. That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8. Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
24 posted on 09/30/2009 7:47:59 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Thank you. Nothing touches my heart more than the Word of God.


29 posted on 09/30/2009 8:13:38 PM PDT by boatbums (Not everything faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed unless it is faced.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

American Constitutionalist:

You are quoting scripture to and audience [secular humanist] that does not want to hear it. Fr. Spitzer is coming from a cosmological perspective to get to the existence of God and doing it in a way that challenges “secular humanistic moral relativistic culture”, and thus his arguments are not aimed for those who already believe in God, rather, it is a way to make the rationalistic atheist come to the conclusion that science itself, which is also part of God’s creation points back to the Creator himself, for as Pope John Paul II, of blessed memory, stated, Truth can’t contradict Truth.

Thus, Science itself and creation reveals the great creative power of God and thus scientific truths and theological truths are not competing philosophies as they all come from God, who as the Nicene Creed states, “I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heavan and Earth and all things seen and unseen”

regards


31 posted on 09/30/2009 8:24:00 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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