Posted on 09/30/2009 5:22:13 AM PDT by Jedediah
I’m sure there are, it just seems like we are outnumbered whenever a discussion of it comes up.
Sorry for the delay in coming back to this discussion, but the mundane matters of life intervened.
I don’t claim to speak for God, but I’ll try to answer your questions as best I can.
“How many baptisms are there ? Just water ?”
There are many types of baptism mentioned in the Bible, for example, baptism by water, baptism by the Holy Spirit, baptism by fire, and the unique baptism that Jesus underwent when he died and was resurrected. But I think we both know the verse that refers to there being “one baptism”. So it seems to me, that of all the baptisms there must be one that is of primary importance, and universal to those in the Kingdom of God. I believe that baptism by water is the baptism referred to there, as the outward sign that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, our names written in the Book of Life. I don’t believe our salvation is dependent on this act, however I do believe it is commanded as an act of obedience and an essential part of our santification.
“Was the man on the cross baptised ?”
I would say probably not. He might have been baptized by John the Baptist, but this would not have been equivalent to the baptism that was practiced by the apostles, since Paul rebaptizes some men who had received a baptism from John the Baptist in Acts 19. I think the important point to remember about the thief though, is that this incident took place before the commission was given to the apostles to preach the gospel and baptize (indeed it even occurred before the death and resurrection of Christ iniated the New Covenant). Until that command was given, we didn’t see anyone baptizing except John the Baptist, which I’ve already said I believe was an altogether different baptism.
“People blown up in wars baptised ?”
Well, I’m sure some who die in wars are baptized and others are not. I guess that you mean to ask, if someone is saved just before being killed on the battlefield, and they have no opportunity to be baptized, are they still saved? In answer to that question I would say yes, since salvation is by faith. I don’t think that excuses the rest of us, who do have the opportunity to obey the command, to refrain from doing so.
“What truly is baptism just water ?”
Baptism is of course a symbol of something more than just being dunked in water. It is a sign, that we are sealed and separated, a Holy Priesthood washed clean by the blood of the lamb. I believe the Bible demonstrates that the act is important, and it should be performed in the proper way, as an act of obedience to Christ’s command.
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AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
THANKS JEDEDIAH.
luke 21:16
16 Even those closest to youyour parents, brothers, relatives, and friendswill betray you. They will even kill some of you. 17 And everyone will hate you because you are my followers.[d] 18 But not a hair of your head will perish! 19 By standing firm, you will win your souls.
25 And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. 26 People will be terrified at what they see coming upon the earth, for the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then everyone will see the Son of Man[e] coming on a cloud with power and great glory.[f] 28 So when all these things begin to happen, stand and look up, for your salvation is near!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWdMrREw3bo
According to a radio host, an atomic bomb that is underground in Washington, DC, is set to go off next weekend, on OCTOBER 11, 2009.
He has predicted this one or two years ago.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I operate in the five fold ministry doing Gods will and uplifting the Saints called by his name to bring the Bride of Christ together AS ONE !
A couple of questions freom me ...
Are you involved in a local church?
Are you submitted to any kind of authority anywhere?
Just askin'
You mean a different time for a different date?
I am leaving for work now, so will check back in ten hours or so.
Check his archives.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Are you saying he made the same prediction to hit one or two years ago
or
that he began predicting for 11 OCT 2009 one or two years ago?
I have no idea what his credibility is.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
Thanks for sharing this.
I think it’s quite accurate.
INDEED.
YES . . . MERELY THE BIRTH PANGS ARE GETTING CLOSER TOGETHER AND MORE DRAMATIC,
imho.
I gather you are of the perspective that
God wound the top up and has merely been watching it spin ever since?
Not my reality.
He knows when a sparrow falls . . .
He is active in the affairs of men.
He is more active in the affairs of men than men are.
There’s a LOT
of points on the continuum
between
0.000 destruction by water and utter total Noah type destruction by wather.
The Lord only promised to avoid the latter.
No. you are wrong.
NO where does Jedediah espouse a complete global Noah level flood.
NO where.
The Biblically predicted “mountain into the sea” would fill Jedediah’s description.
So would a quake or nuke setting off the big landslide on that Canary island sending a massive Tsunami into our East Coast and obliterating Florida.
I realized, however, that naysayers tend to not be that interested in facts which cast aspersions on their naysaying.
Now, now, Iscool.
You know the name of the game is
SHRED EM ON SIGHT
SHRED EM 1ST LIGHT
SHRED EM BY DAY
SHRED EM BY NIGHT
SHRED EM UP ONE SIDE AND DOWN THE OTHER.
SHRED EM FOR ONE EXCUSE OR ANOTHER.
IT DOES NOT MATTER to self-righteous haughty naysayers . . . that I Cor 12-14 does not describe stoning New Testament Church Era prophetic sources AT ALL.
It merely describes the local body vetting which pronouncements are to be discerned as valid and which are not.
Evidently, Paul did not allow blood thirsty bucket brigades in the Corinthian church or any other.
Paul also makes clear that we, as New Testament Christians are to
AVOID DESPISING PROPHECYING!
INSTEAD, TO ALL SEEK TO PROPYECY!
Couldn’t tell that by the typical rantings of most naysayers, however. I guess they are part of the RUBBER BIBLE BRIGADE as well as the BUCKET OF ROCKS BRIGADE.
My reading of his archives are
he made an UNDATED prediction of
a bomb under Washington two years ago,My research is he changed his name legally
and dropped his last name, retaining first and middle.His name was IVACIC, VINCENT X of New Jersey
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