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To: Retired Greyhound; stuartcr; Alamo-Girl
I’ve found that astronomers and physicists are more open towards a deity than biologists.

Me too, Retired Greyhound! Very curious....

Though we dislike "labeling" people, Einstein's views do have a deistic flavor....

I have read that, in Einstein’s case, creative intelligence was the only possible way to explain how such cosmic marvels could exist.

Indeed. Einstein may indeed have believed there is a creative intelligence behind the "pure marble of geometry" that lay at the root of "the base wood" of material phenomena. He calls him/it the "Old One," or the Lord....

Thank you so much for sharing your insight, Retired Greyhound!

6 posted on 09/28/2009 10:16:09 AM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: betty boop

It doesn’t seem to me that we dislike ‘labeling’ people, that’s all we hear nowadays...so-and-so is a____________, especially when it comes to religion.


8 posted on 09/28/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: betty boop; Retired Greyhound; stuartcr; marron; boatbums; hosepipe
I think mathematicians, too, are more open towards a deity than scientists, except for those in the math-intensive sciences such as physics, astrophysics, etc.

Mathematics is, after all, unreasonably effective. (Wigner, Vafa, et al)

We began with a scientific image of the world that was held by many in opposition to a religious view built upon unverifiable beliefs and intuitions about the ultimate nature of things. But we have found that at the roots of the scientific image of the world lies a mathematical foundation that is itself ultimately religious. All our surest statements about the nature of the world are mathematical statements, yet we do not know what mathematics "is" ... and so we find that we have adapted a religion strikingly similar to many traditional faiths. Change "mathematics" to "God" and little else might seem to change. The problem of human contact with some spiritual realm, of timelessness, of our inability to capture all with language and symbol -- all have their counterparts in the quest for the nature of Platonic mathematics.

Barrow, Pi in the Sky, pg. 296-297

In my view, a mathematician would be blind to not notice it.

The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is.

Albert Einstein, “My Credo,” presented to the German League of Human Rights, Berlin, autumn 1932, in Einstein: A Life in Science, Michael White and John Gribbin, ed., London: Simon & Schuster, 1993, page 262.

Truly, that God the Creator IS is so obvious, that everyone will be held accountable for noticing.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20

God's Name is I AM.

41 posted on 09/28/2009 9:26:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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