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To: NYer; All
This segment is more speculation to prove a pre determined viewpoint. Nowhere in this, or any of the segments, has there been one verse to prove the author's point. There are a lot of Jesus said this so it might mean this or that. There is not one instance where the author has a verse to prove why Jesus renamed Peter. The same for Peter being the rock He would build His Church on.

On the other hand, I have posted scriptural proof who Jesus, Peter and the Holy Spirit agree Is the Rock that Christ's Church is built on. NYer, you have yet to comment on what I have posted.

I will post the scripture once again. Maybe you or someone else can explain why this isn't as plain to any of you, as it is to me.

This was Peter filled with the Spirit Jesus promised to send to lead us in all truth.

Acts 4:7-12 (New King James Version)

7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, “By what power or by what name have you done this?”
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: 9 If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, 10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.[a] 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

There is no doubt by the Holy Spirit or Peter that Jesus Christ is the cornerstone of the New Testament Church.  I have no doubt Peter would tell the 'church' leaders of today the same thing much to yours and their dismay.

There is no need for any one to be eminent on earth. We are all members of His heavenly body with His Spirit leading us like It lead Peter in acts.

Where is Peter and I wrong? BVB

 

18 posted on 09/25/2009 5:02:19 PM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: Bobsvainbabblings

***Where is Peter and I wrong? BVB***

Peter isn’t. And neither are you, in this context. Jesus is the petros and Peter is the petra. Jesus is the head of the Church, and Peter is the steward, given the keys to the kingdom while the King is away.

The steward rules the kingdom in the Name of the King. Some rule well - Peter. Some rule ill - Denethor in Gondor comes to mind.


19 posted on 09/25/2009 5:20:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Bobsvainbabblings

Another point you have made before on other threads - God can be very specific, as when he instituted the Levitical Priesthood. Yet in giving Peter authority as Vicar of Christ, he was...well, exceedingly indirect, wasn’t he?

Shoot, even Peter didn’t know!

The whole idea of Papal Supremacy comes down to Jesus saying, “But who do you say that I am?”

Peter replies, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus then says, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

That is it. One sentence, and he doesn’t even say, “You are number one among the Apostles.” Yet from this I am supposed to believe that B16 is the “Vicar of Christ” while God is away...since the Holy Spirit is OBVIOUSLY incompetent.


27 posted on 09/25/2009 6:49:29 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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