I had to go and read through the posts which you referenced. They are very long and very full of errors on both your parts.
However, it is 5:40 AM and I need to rest and rest my eyes which are glazed over from reading all this.
If you truly want a response, I will be glad to take it point by point as you suggest, but it will take some time.
I appreciate the ping. As long as we stay factual, I will participate.
So as to give you an idea of what my refutations will be based on, please understand that the Hebrew Scriptures were translated by Egyptians into Greek and had to be salvaged.
The NEW Jewish Bible “written by Jews FOR Jews” is trash as far as I am concerned. It is a corrupt modernization which I do not accept.
Again, thank you for asking me to this thread. I will certainly enjoy the debate.
To reply to you both in one post:
1) MestaMachine: IF you and/or Zionist Conspirator continue to post on FR, AND respond to well meaning Christians with responses that denigrate the New Testament against Torah principles, AND then offer the excuse that only Torah is valid against the teachings of Torah, AND neither of you finish the discussion started by ZC in the thread I linked to, THEN I will continue to challenge you with Torah, Talmud, and Tanach to the effect that Messiah came in the 1st century.
2) MestaMachine: “If we stay factual”. Sure. I appreciate that the Torah is the word of God, and so long as we obey Torah principles in the discussion, I am OK. I trust that both of you will understand the difference between “staying factual” and a difference of opinion regarding the conclusion drawn from systematic reasoning given a body of evidence with Torah principles as a guide. “The Law of the Lord is perfect”.
3) MestaMachine: Regarding the Soncino Tanach (Old Testament) which I used being corrupt, and not the Tanach of choice today by the Orthodox Jewish community: Sure man. You point me to the definitive, sanctioned, recognized, approved English translation used by Orthodox Jews the world over, and I will acquire a copy, and use that going forward. No problem. I don’t mind saying that I am not Hebrew fluent, but I do have access to Christians (Gentile and Jewish) who are, so it might take some time for me to get back to you from time to time, but get back to you I will.
4) MestaMachine: You want to attack the authority of the Septuagint? Let’s hear it.
5) MestaMachine and Zionist Conspirator: One of you are willing to finish the discussion started by ZC and myself? I welcome it. Every time my faith is challenged, it is stronger at the end of the challenge. I can only profit from a discussion with both or one of you, and I am happy to invest my time in this way.
6) ZC: You did not address my Hebraic, Torah reasoning in the claims I made. The brief justification you make in post #95 do not begin to address the points I made. You are handwaving, and hoping nobody notices. I notice, and so does HaShem. You are definitely better than this. You can meet me point by point. I welcome this, and encourage you man!
7) Have a great day gentlemen.