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***You still cannot find the wafers and wine magically changing into body and blood in John 6 (or anywhere else for that matter). ***

You may wish to reread Paul on that, since the children of the Reformation seem to have demoted the Gospels to second class status. I will use quotes from the St. Jerome Bible, rather than the NAB here:1 Corinthians 10:14-22

14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread. 18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? 19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? 20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?

1 Corinthians 11:17-34

17 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. 34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, lest you come together for judgment. And the rest I will set in order when I come.

If you will not listen to Jesus, perhaps you will listen to Paul.

***We harken to the Scripture as the evidence of truth. Rome departs from that message. QED...Rome has departed the Gospel.***

I give you Scripture - Paul as well as Jesus. Perhaps it is the practices of the Reformed that have strayed. Something rather interesting I found out this afternoon: I looked up the nearest 10 Presbyterian churches to where I reside and found out about their pastors. I also found the General Presbyter.

General Presbyter - Priestess.
Male Pastor - 3
Male Paster Priestess coPastor - 2
Priestess Pastor - 3
Not listed - 2

We have a bunch of wanna be priestesses agitating for ordination, but we don’t make them priestesses and we don’t put them in charge of a church or of a diocese. We also have no bishopesses.

What we do have is the Deposit of Faith handed down to us through the Apostles and Church Fathers from Jesus Christ. We do not depart from Scripture - we were the ones who preserved it, chose the eventual NT (and confirmed the Septuagint of Jesus and the Apostles) and gave it to the world.

Possessing one of the textbooks of the great teaching institution of God without instruction in how to understand it is like trying to understand Superstring Theory without going through the rigours of understanding fundamentals such as addition and subtraction.